The new new ConsiousGenetics testers ( zapplez x Red Kachina)

[Benjic93]

If they turning pale in coco ? Id say its more under ferting and if they are in coco and you've not fed for 5 days why would it be overwatering ? I take your point though cus one or two kinda have that overwatered look, but i doubt its that and if they looked rough as fuck before feeding yesterday ? Then its defo not overwatering imo. So long as your not feeding proper cold ferts which can cause shock and lockout, but usually if that's case stems turn real dark red or purps and they dont look like they are. I really think its prolly lack of feeding I'd prolly risk giving lesser feeds every few days to see what happens, its not instant, but just keep eye on them and see if they start to perk up within a few days firstly, which should be first sign of them getting better before colour comes back. Maybe try 2ml every 2 days and just give them lesser amounts, dont worry about run off so much and just feed a little around plant, lets say 100ml - 200ml to see what happens. Don't give up on them cus nowts a lost cause they are hardy fuckers and do come back with vengeance usually. Id be dropping calmag as well Canna ferts have more than enough in.

Ok man, thankyou for that. I was confused wether it was overwatering because they were drying up everyday before transplanting, so they have a decent rootball. Giving it 5 days before a feed I thought would be safe.

To be honest the ferts are probably on the cold side but I always make sure the water it nice and warm. Couldn't imagine the ferts brought the temp down too much.

To be honest I messed up the feed... I've been growing in soil for so long using grow and bloom (seperate nutes) I forgot there was A AND B... So I think added about 20ml of Canna A into 7lt bucket forgetting there was a PART B LOL... rather then 10ml A 10ml B.. I've messed them up already lol..

They did look rough but the 2 left ones have come back and the 2 right just got worse.

So, give them a couple days to dry out and give them less but more often? I'll give that a bash.

[2-Scoops]

They did look rough but the 2 left ones have come back and the 2 right just got worse.

So, give them a couple days to dry out and give them less but more often? I'll give that a bash.

Yes thats right, nut defo just make a new batch up of A&B only, i wouldn't go higher than 2ml a litre and yes just give it them every few days like I've said, they should start to look ok in no time perking back up before colour starts to green up, keep eye omn new growth if that's green your on right track usually, but 2 or 300ml every few days for a week or to ten days should help them no ends without being too much, then once roots have spread you can give them what you like growing in coco.

Maybe look at those aquarium heaters for colder ferts i have a 100watter stuck on back of a plate in my 70-80ltr tank if its proper cold. A quick stir before i fill a feed bucket up to give plants and jobs a good en

[Keeno]

I agree with 2 Scoops, overwatering. Good advice given already. I'd be inclined to uo the PH closer to 6.0 fior a bit. While they recover.

[Benjic93]

I agree with 2 Scoops, overwatering. Good advice given already. I'd be inclined to uo the PH closer to 6.0 fior a bit. While they recover.

Ok, thanks mate, I agree on the great advice and will be following it. I've been trying reading up alot on the PH. I never ph'd in the past. Never realised how accurate it really needs to be. I gave them 5.8 when I transplanted the most recent feed was 6.0... I'll keep giving them 6.0 though.

I hope they bounce back because I see nothing but lovely grows in coco and I hope I can reach that.

[2-Scoops]

In all honesty i dont PH fert mix of A&B with young seedlings or plants i can`t remember last time i did do it with little ens, its only when they are in their final pots and im adding other stuff to that A&B fert mix like fulvic and silicon i then start to PH it. I'm not sure what PH of that mix is either once made up, obviously i would think it must be in a range between 5.5 & 6.5 or their about or i should think it will start to show on plant sooner or later. But yes call me lazy i can be at times but its just A&B for young seedlings and little ens for me, in all honesty i should prolly do it but its not broke so why fix it hey.

My friend who`s been growing in coco nearly as long as myself doesn't even know what it means to PH his fert mix and that's for the whole way through his grow till he chops and he`s been growing in coco virtually as long as i have. Sometimes i think is it worth doing in coco. It sometimes makes me think does coco have similar buffering ability to that of soil cus it does have a neutral ph between 5.2 and 6.8 and im sure we can grow weed plants within that PH range, well we must be able too cus like i say my friend doesn`t PH his fert mix.

[Benjic93]

In all honesty i dont PH fert mix of A&B with young seedlings or plants i can`t remember last time i did do it with little ens, its only when they are in their final pots and im adding other stuff to that A&B fert mix like fulvic and silicon i then start to PH it. I'm not sure what PH of that mix is either once made up, obviously i would think it must be in a range between 5.5 & 6.5 or their about or i should think it will start to show on plant sooner or later. But yes call me lazy i can be at times but its just A&B for young seedlings and little ens for me, in all honesty i should prolly do it but its not broke so why fix it hey.

My friend who`s been growing in coco nearly as long as myself doesn't even know what it means to PH his fert mix and that's for the whole way through his grow till he chops and he`s been growing in coco virtually as long as i have. Sometimes i think is it worth doing in coco. It sometimes makes me think does coco have similar buffering ability to that of soil cus it does have a neutral ph between 5.2 and 6.8 and im sure we can grow weed plants within that PH range, well we must be able too cus like i say my friend doesn`t PH his fert mix.

So I spent about £80 on a god dam pH pen for nothing LOL... Some people coco needs PH'ing religiously. I guess every part of growing though is BRO Science. Everyone does it differently. I never once ph'd in soil. I only ran into issues when I messed up their feed or didn't read the plants well enough on what they wanted. All in all though I was haply with the end products.

With Coco, people even say to PH run off? I won't go that far. I'll ph the feed every watering just because Its new to me and I want to do it 'correctly' over time though I might miss a PH feed and see no difference and carry on as that.

I guess maybe it's down to the water out the tap aswell? Once I put my ferts in it was reading about 6.8. But that was with hydro sillicon and mag in there aswell. I'll just put A&B in next time and see what it reads. I only added the extras in thinking it will give them the best start.. seems I was wrong haha.

[2-Scoops]

Yes i always ph plants religiously once they are in full on veg mode tis just young seedlings i really dont think it matters too much so long as your in that neutral ph range that coco has 6.2 to 6.8. TBH my view is if ya get your ph right for max uptake at different times during plants life its better than any shop bought booster, but that's just my opinion and in all honesty sometimes i think what's point when i see my mates grown without, i may try his way out one day then again i prolly wont. I use a lot of silicon too, its one of my goto additives once i start to ph my ferts and if i check ph after adding that its like way over 8 and for sure that would cause havoc if i didn't ph it.

So I spent about £80 on a god dam pH pen for nothing LOL

Bloody hell they're only a £5ver on E-Bay, its all I've ever used i think I've had 3 in donkeys year's of use.

I guess maybe it's down to the water out the tap aswell?

Yes i recon that could have summink to do with it as well, im in a more or less soft water area @ 0.2`ish EC & water PH around 7 (slightly higher tbh) but adding right amount of A&B to that lowers PH to around bang on, so long as you dont add too much A&B that is, so no point doing it if you feel that way inclined. But for sure A&B lowers PH and that's all my mukka uses along with pk booster

[Benjic93]

Evening GF420,

So I watered these babies on Friday 10th. Followed your advice @2-Scoops I gave them 300ml feed. 2ml Canna A & B only. Got to say, they are looking much better. With 6.1 PH.

I must say though, with me feeding them so much prior, I'm struggling to determine when I should give them another feed. I've always gone by the pot weight but because I gave them so much in the beginning, the pot it's always heavy.

I just have to go by how they look for now.

Environment is consistent with 24-26c and 70%.

The 2 on the left seem to have bounced back pretty well. I can't say the same for the 2 right ones. Their nodes just isn't coming through.

I'll try take better pics tonight when I go in there to see if there hungry. You can see the difference though.

[2-Scoops]

If they`re under hps carry on feeding same amount every 2 days, if they are under led drop to around 100 or 200ml every few days. Give it a week to 10 days or so then you can feed more heavy regime once they are bigger and full of green with lots of roots, basically then its just a case of just soaking medium to 10% or so run off daily or every few days. Hardest part in coco is getting them rocking when they are youngsters and not mahoosive Benji. Don't do the soil thing too much its really different style of growing once plants are established in pots. Yes try get pics that we can see whets up a bit better mate, but im gonna say its lack of feeding just cus of how you`ve grown them up to now and more so if others are perked up, shit takes time i suppose sometimes, but defo stick at the 2 days feed regime for now dont sweat about heavy pots, they will soon green up mate

[Benjic93]

Bang on the money @2-Scoops these are some hungry girls. They under 250w hps 24hr a day so this is actually the 1st time I've turned the light off and DAMM there hungry. Oops.

So I gave them 200ml (ish) 2ml CANNA A & B.

Its been 3 days since I watered them so they could definitely take every 2 days by the way there looking.

Makes me nervous the difference between the left side and the right side. Hope they push some nodes out soon before there sisters get far ahead. Will top the left ones soon.

See, I've been growing in soil for years. It's all iknow. I just need to get out that mindset.

I appreciate your help mate. Already looking happier.