Encrypted Garden Run #001

[ncrypta.core]

[2-Scoops]

@2-Scoops I’m not using coco with this grow I’m in soil

So much for that explanation then hey ffs But soil works a similar way but has a much lesser CEC than coco. Long and short of it CEC is where its at when ph is thrown out and your medium loses its buffering capabilities. Flushing pots through with shit loads of water does nothing what so ever to help that, in fact flushing pots out should always be a last resort hence don`t go OTT with ferts and their should be no need to flush pots out till end of grow when you put them on water only feeds.

Out of interest coir has by far best CEC of all grow mediums which makes it very attractive to growers, quicker faster food uptake = bigger plants = bigger yields

[ncrypta.core]

@2-Scoops I’m not using coco with this grow I’m in soil

So much for that explanation then hey ffs But soil works a similar way but has a much lesser CEC than coco. I think coco has by far best CEC of all mediums. Long and short of it CEC is where its at when ph is thrown out and your medium loses its buffering capabilities. Flushing pots through with shit loads of water does nothing what so ever to help that, in fact flushing pots out should always be a last resort hence don`t go OTT with ferts and their should be no need to flush pots out till end of grow when you put them on water only feeds.

Out of interest coir has by far best CEC of all grow mediums which makes it very attractive to growers, quicker faster food uptake = bigger plants = bigger yields

Even tho I'm in soil atm but November i will not be that info is very useful, just couldn't really comment on it. I did original choose coco over soil, soil ok but prefer coco tbh, this is where I'm interested in the difference between coco and rockwool. as they meant to be awesome with irrigation in their own right


Rockwool has a CEC of zero, so it doesn't alter or limit the availability of cations in the root zone. There’s a possibility for high optimization of the nutrient solution and with little error and if concentration goes out of balance then it’s easy to remedy. Rockwool's WHC is nearly zero. It will quickly drain from maximum saturation and gaps will fill with air once again.

The percentage of unavailable nutrient solution to your plants grown in Rockwool blocks is around 2%.

Source: https://www.oysoco.com/hydroponics/10-h ... ydroponics

This is why I love learning new stuff for growing this beautiful plant. my view is if you don't make mistake doesn't matter how small how do you improve as a grower, as it doesn't matter how long you've been doing it for your learning something new every day.

This is why I've done an everyday online diary. when issues happen if they do you can get advice from anyone and then you and others can backtrack to find out how it happens. as it's somewhere in the data, but I do belive that if my environment was off wack you'd still see the problem but much worse.

Ive been talking to luxxlighting about dli and twenty20 Mendocino about vpd like they run it higher than charts recommend as they notice fewer mold issues. touchwood i don't get that.

[2-Scoops]

I grew in small rockwool cubes and clayballs in pots before switching to coco many moons ago, the same way i do now with coco and man when i switched to coco the plants were much bigger faster and produced more. Higher CEC is where its all at for that reason ie: lots more ferts available for uptake ASAP is my thinking on jobby. Maybe do one of each to satisfy your curiosity hey....But yes cool glad your taking shit on board like this. Tbh i struggle to understand a lot of this stuff myself but i kinda can just about get my head around it in my own way.

Just watched the video nice one, they fail to say when running crazy high EC your just pissing cash down drain, more so in a run to waste system liker most coco growers use, maybe cus you`ll need to buy more ferts feck knows , but plant will only uptake what it needs as and when and no way is weed plant gobbling down those amount of crazy high EC`s hence why fert salts build up in medium, running a much more balanced EC around (1.2 - 1.8) what plant is needing is way forward imo.

[ncrypta.core]

Update 1

For the past few hours I have spent flushing Trizzlers to bring her ph back in a sensible number as she was reading 5.5 and this wasn’t good as she in soil, now 20l later her runoff reading 6.1, Still think she may need another 5-10l to bring her back to 6.3. I’ll have a more of a proper update later today.

[2-Scoops]

You`ve smashed it, good stuff mate, lets hope it holds steady till end now.

[Stickylemonz]

Wow so much info @ncrypta.core my head is fried trying to take it all in so many questions I have for you 1st one being what type of humidity temp controller you use that has a phone app?? Also them plants are very nice and very fat hahah spent ages reading this diary I honestly don’t have a clue what half of it means but have got some good info of this so thank you!

Glad I could help confuses you but that wasn't the intention but getting asked question was, and in a way you could copy temp humidity etc, think that's why @Keepvidnoirm mention me in the podcast. As tried something different with diares i mean give you stats as if you see me go wrong like me you'd see where if not then you could include so aspect of it aka vpd lol. Yes, it looks like it's confessing for a newbie but it really is not is it stuff like VPD DLI Shoot what's confusing?. Oh I've only been growing 15 months started 20 April 2020 :D. but still learning

Ask away my friend ill try to answer everything to best even if you need to dm me go ahead.

now to answer the questions:

The original temp controller I used for this grow is the Govee one.

This one:

still using it for the veg tent

now I have switched to the sensorPush HTP.xw for flower as has a vpd range


Temperature Accuracy (full range) (typical): ±0.2°C / ±0.4°F
Temperature Accuracy (20-60°C / 68-140°F) (typical): ±0.1°C / ±0.2°F

Relative Humidity Accuracy (20-80%) (typical): ±1.5%
Relative Humidity Accuracy (20-80%) (maximum) +2.0C

Hope I've answered your question.

Yes mate you have thank you, just wondered with the second device does it need a power source from plug?

[ncrypta.core]

@2-Scoops Thanks man and thank you for all your replies, should have done it when I first noticed it Hotz still running at the same value, but planning on doing her soon to just trizzlers needed it more from the look of her. Yes touchwood no more issues but am glad I had one tho. She already has produced more than my other light has ever I think so I have no idea how much i affected the yield. I'm on day 59 and Trizzlers takes 72-80 days and Hotz: 75 -85 days.

They both started flowering after 4 weeks, I'd say they will have 8-9week flower I'm in week 5, Planing a 14 day flush of starting day 72-75, so not too long left.

@Stickylemonz nope they both don't need to plugged in the sensorpush uses a watch battery and the second one govee takes AAA batteries, should of had quick look as just had that out as was calibrating it as was +1.5% RH out

[ncrypta.core]

AD-58: July 21th, 2021.




Flower Tent VPD Target :1.0 - 1.6kPa

AD-57: July 22th, 2021.
Flushed Trizzlers with 20L water with ph of 6.4-6.5 to bring the her back in line with soil as she was reading 5.5 now 6.1ph

Current Contions: [Time: 20:404]
* 92F(Lights On)
* 53% RH%
* VPD: 1.57 kPa
Flower Tent VPD Target :1.0 - 1.6kPa

TRIZZLER:


HOTZ

[2-Scoops]

Are those pole fans any good @ncrypta.core ? I've been looking and pondering on hitting the buy button on flea-bay with one, I'm just wondering if they`re noisy and if they kick out a nice bit of wind.

Plenty of nice bud pictures mate as well.