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Wow 🤩 so much info @ncrypta.core my head is fried trying to take it all in so many questions I have for you 1st one being what type of humidity temp controller you use that has a phone app?? Also them plants are very nice and very fat hahah spent ages reading this diary I honestly don’t have a clue what half of it means but have got some good info of this so thank you!

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Wow 🤩 so much info @ncrypta.core my head is fried trying to take it all in so many questions I have for you 1st one being what type of humidity temp controller you use that has a phone app?? Also them plants are very nice and very fat hahah spent ages reading this diary I honestly don’t have a clue what half of it means but have got some good info of this so thank you!

Glad I could help confuses you but that wasn't the intention but getting asked question was, and in a way you could copy temp humidity etc, think that's why @Keepvidnoirm mention me in the podcast. As tried something different with diares i mean give you stats as if you see me go wrong like me you'd see where if not then you could include so aspect of it aka vpd lol. Yes, it looks like it's confessing for a newbie but it really is not is it stuff like VPD DLI Shoot what's confusing?. Oh I've only been growing 15 months started 20 April 2020 :D. but still learning

Ask away my friend ill try to answer everything to best even if you need to dm me go ahead.

now to answer the questions:

The original temp controller I used for this grow is the Govee one.

This one:

still using it for the veg tent

now I have switched to the sensorPush HTP.xw for flower as has a vpd range


Temperature Accuracy (full range) (typical): ±0.2°C / ±0.4°F
Temperature Accuracy (20-60°C / 68-140°F) (typical): ±0.1°C / ±0.2°F

Relative Humidity Accuracy (20-80%) (typical): ±1.5%
Relative Humidity Accuracy (20-80%) (maximum) +2.0C

Hope I've answered your question.
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WEEK 5 FLOWER

AD-56: July 19th 2021.


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* 78-95F (AVG-87F) (Lights On)
* 51-61 (58% AVG) RH%
* VPD: 1.14 kPa
AD-57: July 20th, 2021.
nothing to really say about them atm

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* 92F(Lights On)
* 58% RH%
* VPD: 1.31 kPa
Flower Tent VPD Target :1.0 - 1.6kPa

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Those look like like some sort of lockout is not far off @ncrypta.core to my eyes. Namely caused by over saturating medium with fert salts

Over-ferting can reduce yields quite some and bud tastes shit unless you proper yellow plant up towards end on water only. Just a few points to ponder for ya`s

Here`s a good read about using too much ferts towards page bottom. https://mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Marijua ... t-Problems

I know your trying/just test testing higher ferting for yourself out, but I just thought I'd mention it mukka. 8-)
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Those look like like some sort of lockout is not far off @ncrypta.core to my eyes. Namely caused by over saturating medium with fert salts

Over-ferting can reduce yields quite some and bud tastes shit unless you proper yellow plant up towards end on water only. Just a few points to ponder for ya`s

Here`s a good read about using too much ferts towards page bottom. https://mandalaseeds.com/Guides/Marijua ... t-Problems

I know your trying/just test testing higher ferting for yourself out, but I just thought I'd mention it mukka. 8-)
Hey man yes I believe there is an with Trizzlers but I don’t think it’s lock out think it’s more ph as feed at 6.2 -6.4 but her run off is 5.5 as you can see what looks like mag issue the problem is she isn’t getting any worse 2 weeks looked same I mean leaves. The odd thing is Hotz ph is the same but she doesn’t look like anything wrong with her no yellowing nothing. So could Trizzlers be more finicky than Hotz


Btw I have now backed off feeding higher. Prob going to flush Trizzlers again on next feed. But I went into this know there could be issues just next time would fix the issue sooner

Thanks for the link man will read it when get chance but from the look of it look like good info
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Screw wait till next feed. Will flush her with up to 45l to get back in range of 6.1-6.5 tomorrow

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Screw wait till next feed. Will flush her with up to 45l to get back in range of 6.1-6.5 tomorrow
Your not gonna bring ph back into line by flushing, you`ve proper knocked it out heavy feeding and flushing, keeping ph stable is all about having a cation exchange capacity that`s not been thrown out by over-ferting and flushing pots out through-out a grow or whatever else does but by doing that your gonna throw out the coco-coir buffering capabilities much quicker than on any normal day of week so to say. Basically it`s about the cation exchange capacity (CEC) and its buffering capabilities. If theirs an imbalance in your coco and ph is thrown out then the positive (ions)and negative charges (anions)repel each other so again take up is less and you could prolly call that lockout of some sort although i doubt very much that`s right wording to call it.

Calcium (Ca++)and magnesium (Mg++) are both double charged ions and cus coco binds, holds and releases these slowly. IMO by adding more calmag at this stage will do no good at all and prolly create more problems or an imbalance in medium cus you would be OD`ing them on calcium and magnesium and in effect locking them out by over-ferting. Flushing may help to a certain extent but not much. But on a brighter note keep medium wet after flushing all salts back running a much lower EC of base ferts and you`ll be sound.

Well it`s summink like that, tbh i can`t get into it too much its a right head fuck for myself and I'll be typing forever andf prolly nolt most accurate description tbf. But yes read up on CEC of coco etc cations (ions positive charges) and anions (negative charges) basically its these that feed the plant and which it takes up through roots. Well I think so anyhow don`t quote all that but read up on CEC of coco and its buffering capabilities is prolly best way or watch some YouTube vids tis much easier to get your head around then, it`s what i did. Big up to YouTube vids hey..... :rock:

If you re-use the coco again it maybe an idea re-buffering it by pre-treating it with lots of cations or calmag by soaking over night. :oik!:

Fulvic acid is a great additive with coco and helps very much with take up of ferts by by binding or chelating. 8-)
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@2-Scoops I’m not using coco with this grow I’m in soil
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