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Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:12 pm
Checked this morning. 48 hours of dark. Buds have nearly doubled in size. Hubby said they're popcorn atm so giving it another 24 hours. Getting him to do a rest smoke as well.
If it needs another week or 2 that's ok. Was basically part of late winter grow anyway.

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Oioi tell him to check em again when the smoke wears off lol.
How much longer do you think Hobbit?

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Oioi tell him to check em again when the smoke wears off lol.
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Looking great in there Aqua. Love the Buds only plant :)

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Oioi tell him to check em again when the smoke wears off lol.

Looking great in there Aqua. Love the Buds only plant :)
That's the one I keep looking at to see when the bugger will be ready. Showing 75% milky but kinda like popcorn buds. Not hard buds. Do they fatten as they dry?

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Yeah strains developed for indoor or greenhouse cultivation are more prone to bud rot. Hobbit makes a good point. However with a bit of breeding, environmental conditioning any modern strain can be made tough af. I wouldn't breed stuff out here that can't handle the conditions. High humidity, a lot of rain, moisture and dry hot summers with cyclones.

Problem is seeds from companies like any Dutch or American, their genetics are not subjected to three cyclones outdoors over summer. If you still get healthy fat buds after this, especially as the last one hit 4 weeks before harvest... well it's bullet proof.

Hobbit I really want to try to get that hardiness into modern strains. I do use local sativa as base stock. Shit is really tough. A couple local.hybrids as well from the 70s and 80s. We lost two pure strains since the 90s. I moved away moved back and in the 20 years things had gone to shit. Atm I'm.using Ghanaian, swazi (collected j burg 7 years ago) a few Afghan, a Indian kush region, a Nepalese, Shri Lankan , and Tanzanian. I had some China yunnan by ave seed but dud batch. Not like the last pack. :-/

Pity China Yiunnan is one of my favorites.

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Took these with the loupe after 72 hours dark and no watering.
How is it looking?
I'm getting really excited.
Have put it back outside today.

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Aqua wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:32 am
Bulls wrote:
Hobbit wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:46 pm
Oioi tell him to check em again when the smoke wears off lol.

Looking great in there Aqua. Love the Buds only plant :)
That's the one I keep looking at to see when the bugger will be ready. Showing 75% milky but kinda like popcorn buds. Not hard buds. Do they fatten as they dry?

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Aqua if they aint dense already most likely they wont ever be. Buds will bulk up last couple of weeks. So up to you if ya want to wait and see it isnt going to get much better than that. The idea that buds density is increased with 72 hour dark period is false. It comes back to the circadian clock. Plants know how many hours they have to store carbs for the dark period and thats what they do. By the time the sun comes back up they are depleting their stores. For plants to be storing excess carbs causes damage to plant cells which is why a 24/0 time schedule isnt a good idea. While weed does use a different carbon pathway to some plants which allows a 24/0 cycle, it is doing damage that would become visible over a long period of time. Visible or not the damage is there. The upside is you dont gotta worry about grot if they aint dense lol. Good temperature for drying now although the RH is up a bit.

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So do you think it's time to chop the whole plant and hang it upside down in the tent to dry?
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ShitsNgiggles wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:11 am
Yeah strains developed for indoor or greenhouse cultivation are more prone to bud rot. Hobbit makes a good point. However with a bit of breeding, environmental conditioning any modern strain can be made tough af. I wouldn't breed stuff out here that can't handle the conditions. High humidity, a lot of rain, moisture and dry hot summers with cyclones.

Problem is seeds from companies like any Dutch or American, their genetics are not subjected to three cyclones outdoors over summer. If you still get healthy fat buds after this, especially as the last one hit 4 weeks before harvest... well it's bullet proof.

Hobbit I really want to try to get that hardiness into modern strains. I do use local sativa as base stock. Shit is really tough. A couple local.hybrids as well from the 70s and 80s. We lost two pure strains since the 90s. I moved away moved back and in the 20 years things had gone to shit. Atm I'm.using Ghanaian, swazi (collected j burg 7 years ago) a few Afghan, a Indian kush region, a Nepalese, Shri Lankan , and Tanzanian. I had some China yunnan by ave seed but dud batch. Not like the last pack. :-/

Pity China Yiunnan is one of my favorites.
Yeah im talking about after the wet season mate, very dense buds in winter with very low rh can get grot if subjected to rain. TBH to be breeding mate you need hundreds of plants and to be able to grow them out. Youd also need to keep your males totally secluded and need a fair few of those as well. Serious breeding aint for the home gardener.

Here is a coupe pics taken in Yunnan Province. Fields of it and growing in the cracks of the foot paths lol. The large one wasnt tended to, just a weed growing on its own. One of them was taken from my bedroom window, where i could just pick wild buds from bed lol. The last one has a half dozen weed plant sgrowing on the embankment around the crops. They grow like our stinking roger grows.








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Aqua wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:30 pm
So do you think it's time to chop the whole plant and hang it upside down in the tent to dry?
Thanks

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Id say with the weather forecast for the week not much is going to change other than running the risk of grot having her in the rain, Id be tempted to rip her. I dont like a couch lock smoke anyways. One other thing Aqua in regards to worm farm. The runoff or worm wee as it is commonly called is not what we are after and its not wee. If you are getting runofff from your farm most likely its too wet in there. I never get runoff. The runnoff will contain nutrients, but its microbes we are really after here. that runoff will contain microbes but likely not the kind we are after. Using that is a good way to breed pathogens. The microbes we desire are always aerobic not anerobic, with the exception of Lactobacillus, which performs well under both anerobic and aerobic conditions.

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Hobbit wrote:
Aqua wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:30 pm
So do you think it's time to chop the whole plant and hang it upside down in the tent to dry?
Thanks

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Id say with the weather forecast for the week not much is going to change other than running the risk of grot having her in the rain, Id be tempted to rip her. I dont like a couch lock smoke anyways. One other thing Aqua in regards to worm farm. The runoff or worm wee as it is commonly called is not what we are after and its not wee. If you are getting runofff from your farm most likely its too wet in there. I never get runoff. The runnoff will contain nutrients, but its microbes we are really after here. that runoff will contain microbes but likely not the kind we are after. Using that is a good way to breed pathogens. The microbes we desire are always aerobic not anerobic, with the exception of Lactobacillus, which performs well under both anerobic and aerobic conditions.
I only understood a bit of that sorry.
It's a 3 level worm farm.
I'm still keeping potatoe peelings separate to dry and burn a long with letting egg shells dry then crush and sprinkle them over the soil. Is that correct?

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