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[2-Scoops]

Ohhhh I’m subbed in!! Can’t wait to see the octane fire

[2-Scoops]

So these are getting 1.4 to 1.6 ec now which is A&B and silicic acid, feeding every few days now. Veg lighting is 250mh and 50 watts of LED running 24/7 atmo. I really need to lower them down in size so this weekend i may just tie them back down somehow.


Todays post was for my next grow which I'm pretty sure is gonna be kerosene krash by Dutch Passion. Big up to those guys, a top bunch of peeps.

[2-Scoops]

So I've been a bit slack with updates but hey-ho tis what it is. Anyhow these are getting a bit big for space tbh but i cant flip yet as i got council boiler inspection coming next week so everything is stuffed in flowering cupboard plant wise including cuttings etc, not a big problem really i spose. So today i a did a bit of LST and tied them down and next Wednesday after council has been i shall flip these to bloom and hopefully jobs a good en no more sweating on shit.

Anyhow they are being fed 1.6EC. Cheers peeps.

[2-Scoops]

So today after council been and refurbed boiler I've flipped these, so today its day 1 of bloom. Feeds A&B and silicon to an overall EC of 1.3-1.4`ish. Oh and theirs 2 cuttings of each sat on chest freezer in spare room they seem happy enough their so jobs a goods en. Cheers peeps.

[seymore_budz]

Coming along nicely @2-Scoops.

[2-Scoops]

So today is day 7 of 12/12 and i made a mix up of A&B, calmag, silicon, shooting powder & seaweed juice, which has bumped my EC up from 1.4`ish straight to 2.9ec, maybe a slight risk bumping it up that fast but nothing to worry about too much. I'm still using same amount of A&B, so the EC bump is rest of stuff added of which mainly is the shooting powder being the big hitter and EC bumper of them all. Fuck i hope that`s understandable

Anyhow reason for the shooting powder being used so early is to hopefully promote flowering a little faster. Its only being used for 6 days.

Also today i bent a load of top shoots that were taking off I'm gonna try to keep a summink like even canopy with this one, but we`ll see how that one goes later on in bloom though hey.

I`ll be netting these fekkers sometime next week, they are close to my screen line now. They are still under 250mh bulb and about 50watts of Invisible Sun LED. Cheers for poking heads in everyone.

[seymore_budz]

Looking good @2-Scoops. Nice flat and stacked canopy.

You're the one normally giving me the pep talk about EC but, taking your EC from 1.4 to 2.9 could cause problems if it's the shooting powder pushing up the numbers. If you start to see some abnormal yellowing at the new growth sites or the odd rust spot around the top half of the plant then back off a little. Shooting powder is PK and that's the only thing that's going to raise your EC that much. I hate to think what the ppm figures are

[2-Scoops]

Looking good @2-Scoops. Nice flat and stacked canopy.

You're the one normally giving me the pep talk about EC but, taking your EC from 1.4 to 2.9 could cause problems if it's the shooting powder pushing up the numbers. If you start to see some abnormal yellowing at the new growth sites or the odd rust spot around the top half of the plant then back off a little. Shooting powder is PK and that's the only thing that's going to raise your EC that much. I hate to think what the ppm figures are

Yes i know i do at times its more cus i just think crazy high EC`s with base ferts are a real waste of £ down drain, when i know running a lower base fert EC produces similar or same results.

When i first started growing i vegged on 1.8ec and flowered on 2.8ec from day 1 of 12/12 Seymour. No little bumps just a straight bump up to where i wanted and i never had problems doing it that way for like 7 to 8 years, ok plants being grown at time were very much bigger plants but i cant see why size should effect plants doing it again if its fully grown and mature. so i figured a slightly bigger bump isn't gonna cause too much of a problem this go, fingers crossed and all that stuff, should be ok man.

On the PK thing i know all 3 N.P.K bump up EC but i find N is biggest bumper of EC in base ferts although all 3 bump it up good style, just my observations and daft math to work that one out using just base ferts alongside pk boosts down years. Obviously its a big bump this time caused by P.K what with shooting powder being a crazy high numbered P.K boost.

Nice one mate

[Marcus]

Hi Jimbo! That's going to be rammed in there soon. You going to up the wattage or stay where you are?

You still keep in touch with Tony at DP? I really want them to bring back their Skywalker. And I see they've changed their packaging again. I liked the little cigar type tins.

It's much easier to keep up with diaries on the forum, the discord is a bit too much "scrolling" and trying to find bits n bobs.

[seymore_budz]

Looking good @2-Scoops. Nice flat and stacked canopy.

You're the one normally giving me the pep talk about EC but, taking your EC from 1.4 to 2.9 could cause problems if it's the shooting powder pushing up the numbers. If you start to see some abnormal yellowing at the new growth sites or the odd rust spot around the top half of the plant then back off a little. Shooting powder is PK and that's the only thing that's going to raise your EC that much. I hate to think what the ppm figures are

Yes i know i do at times its more cus i just think crazy high EC`s with base ferts are a real waste of £ down drain, when i know running a lower base fert EC produces similar or same results.

When i first started growing i vegged on 1.8ec and flowered on 2.8ec from day 1 of 12/12 Seymour. No little bumps just a straight bump up to where i wanted and i never had problems doing it that way for like 7 to 8 years, ok plants being grown at time were very much bigger plants but i cant see why size should effect plants doing it again if its fully grown and mature. so i figured a slightly bigger bump isn't gonna cause too much of a problem this go, fingers crossed and all that stuff, should be ok man.

On the PK thing i know all 3 N.P.K bump up EC but i find N is biggest bumper of EC in base ferts although all 3 bump it up good style, just my observations and daft math to work that one out using just base ferts alongside pk boosts down years. Obviously its a big bump this time caused by P.K what with shooting powder being a crazy high numbered P.K boost.

Nice one mate

Very true. I've just finished a small experiment where I tested how high I can push EC and the numbers are crazy. I had plants that were receiving 4EC and were healthy and loving life. That being said there was a build-up in the media what lead to issues later on down the road :)

EC doesn't really tell the grower a lot other than there's a lot of little disolved solids in solution. Nitrogen will have a profound effect on the EC but, that's not the whole picture as there are three types of N the plant can use and two normally in hydroponics fertiliser. NO3- and NH4+. The plants will take them up and use them very differently too. NH4+ can be taken up much easier than NO3- so fertiliser with a higher ratio of NH4+ must be run at a lower EC or you will end up with N toxicity.

You have to be very careful of nutrient element ratio as that's going to have a larger influence than EC. Whacking in P and K at high levels causes unwanted competition between element uptake and the plants will struggle to take other elements. This is why many see leaf issues a week or so after they dose PK13/14.

I haven't used base fertiliser for a while now :) All my nutrients I've been making from scratch or using Masterblend. I now have a cupboard full of shit like this.



They looking great though bud! Very happy. Going to be stacked in there soon.