Pinapple Skunk - Humboldt Seed Org

[seymore_budz]

Very brief update, first two cuttings rooted today. Both rockwool, but I've yanked one of the plants in peat and it's rooted too, so they both rooted at a similar pace. Placed in 3" rockwool cubes that have been soaked in a solution with silica and enzymes. The PH is 5.7 and the EC is 2.2EC

[seymore_budz]

Those are some healthy clones! Mine usually get good and yellow before taking root.

[2-Scoops]

EC is 2.2EC

Your really pushing it Seymour. I just cant see plant being able to use that amount of feed atmo without it causing a problem at some point in near future. Why so much ?

[seymore_budz]

EC is 2.2EC

Your really pushing it Seymour. I just cant see plant being able to use that amount of feed atmo without it causing a problem at some point in near future. Why so much ?

I've been experimenting elsewhere quite a lot and with clones for a while. Everything so far points to clones like full strength fertiliser over lower rates. This isn't the case for seeds and if you gave them 2.2EC then they probably wouldn't like it :).

Notice how they haven't yellowed at all while rooting? That's because of the high EC. If I root them with a lower EC, the leaves start to yellow before they root. I always just put it down to part of the rooting process, but it would seem that it's actually because they need the same strength food as the mother. But, I suppose I should add a caveat and say please don't copy any of this unless you're prepared to loose some plants. I'm experimenting with all sorts atm so my nutrient strength may sound a bit wacky, but there's method in my madness.

I've been doing a hell of a lot of research into correct NER and EC for Cannabis and it would seem that the commercial guys do things very differently than us hobby guys. They run a 2.5-3EC throughout. I hope to have some interesting results to share by the end of this year.

[seymore_budz]

Those are some healthy clones! Mine usually get good and yellow before taking root.

Interesting you say that :) I've been experimenting with nutrient strength while rooting and these have had quite a high EC. I've been experimenting behind the scenes and from my tinkering and rambling I've discovered a higher EC while rooting stops the yellowing while rooting. I'm continuing to play with ratios etc, but it takes so long. I need more plants and a larger area :)

If you have a few plants in grow, have a play with different EC levels. I've found using the same strength as the mother has been fed seems to work the best.

[2-Scoops]

Everything so far points to clones like full strength fertiliser over lower rates. This isn't the case for seeds and if you gave them 2.2EC then they probably wouldn't like it :).

Do you know a guy from old site i used was a heavy feeder with clones straight from the off, not 2.2ec heavy but heavier than most dare. No science behind it but his philosophy was that the clones were took from a full grown mature plant so why wouldn`t the clone be able to take same full dose like a mature plant was on from the off cus once rooted they are gonna be mature plants no matter their size. Summink to that int it what with what your saying about clones and seedling fert strength, kinda makers sense a little bit. Kind of ties in a bit to me. Cheers man

[Paul_led]

I never feed higher than 1.5 , I am always thinking I’ll burn the hell
Out of em lol

[seymore_budz]

Everything so far points to clones like full strength fertiliser over lower rates. This isn't the case for seeds and if you gave them 2.2EC then they probably wouldn't like it :).

Do you know a guy from old site i used was a heavy feeder with clones straight from the off, not 2.2ec heavy but heavier than most dare. No science behind it but his philosophy was that the clones were took from a full grown mature plants so why wouldn`t clone be able to take same full dose like a mature plant from the off cus once rooted they are gonna be mature plants no matter their size. Summink to that int it what with what your saying about clones and seedling fert strength, kinda makers sense. Kind of ties in a bit to me.

From what I'm seeing he's 100% correct. Once I'm confident that I'm right, l'll do a post with a whole bunch of different EC levels to document everything. I'm going to go incognito for a while after this grow as I'm going to rebuild my room from the ground up. I want to get out of tents and into a nice dedicated area with air conditioning etc. Its going to take me a month or so to complete though as I don't have a lot of free time.

[seymore_budz]

I never feed higher than 1.5 , I am always thinking I’ll burn the hell
Out of em lol

I thought the same, but it would seem that's not the case. I've never really understood nutrition until recently. It's been quite intense, but I'm finally starting to understand the chemistry, and it would seem that electrochemical balance and element ratios are much more important than nutrient levels. I'm still learning though.

[2-Scoops]

I never feed higher than 1.5 , I am always thinking I’ll burn the hell
Out of em lol

Yes Paul eyy up man. Not with big plants they can take out you sling at them more or less within reason. I was taught feeding 1.8 in veg 2.8ec in bloom and run off was hitting 4+ most times and i grew that way for a good few years, i dont go above 1.6EC nowadays. But in all honesty ive not seen or noticed any difference feeding much lower fert strength than feeding with much higher with crops that ive done. Personally speaking i think your chucking £ down drain by feeding high EC`s nowadays when theirs no difference in end result feeding a lot less EC.

In times gone by ive seen far too many start sweating too soon as well when they see a dead necrotic leaf tip appear and chuck towel in when not even feeding heavy as such and then drop back down to lower EC`s to point of under-feeding when its really not called for. Slight change and a bit rambling on again their. Cheers mukka.