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[Keeno]

I don’t know. I trimmed off every leaf that was predominantly speckled with what looked like a copper color. Whatever these clones went through in their prior life must have been wicked. So at this point, I know they may get sick or may be sick already but I need to continue to see if it grows out.

I also topped each plant about Wednesday I think of this week. Right plant is more healthy than the left plant.

Reservoir is stinking a little bit. I’m gonna try some more Hydro guard. But I need to see what other options I have available to me.

New pH pen and EC meter to arrive tomorrow.





I don’t like the fact that one leaf bends and curves a little bit.

Don't trim the leaves off that are damaged.

Back off the base nutrients a tad please.

Leave the hydro guard for now. If the res has shrunk only a little and the coco looks so dry I wonder if there is a flow issue.

That coco looks pretty dry, are these autopots adjustable as in flow or is the top being a bit dry normal as it's bottom fed?

@Cave Hill Cole

[anova.330]

Don't trim the leaves off that are damaged.

Back off the base nutrients a tad please.

Leave the hydro guard for now. If the res has shrunk only a little and the coco looks so dry I wonder if there is a flow issue.

That coco looks pretty dry, are these autopots adjustable as in flow or is the top being a bit dry normal as it's bottom fed?

@Cave Hill Cole

I think this is more of a disease than anything. I don’t see any black dots of excrement underneath the leaves. I don’t see trails to, and from these white or copper colored dots on my leaves.

I added 3 gallons of RO water to the reservoir to bring down the nutrition level.

PPM is now 938. EC is 1.8. Before, PPM was over 1600 and EC was about 2.6. I’m not real sure how to read these meters but I know those numbers are too high. PH was at 6.03. I have to take some measurements again because I need to pH down to 5.8 5.6.

Here’s another picture. I really think it’s disease.

[anova.330]

PPM is 900. I know that number is way too high but after adding 3 gallons of RO water that is what I end up with.

Added 40 mL of biogard, and the stink is gone for the most part. I need to continue to add this about every five days.

pH is back down to 5.6.

Oh… And I added the net.

[Keeno]

Nice one getting the net in #scroglife

I don't think its a decease. I don't know if you saw/remember my video on issues under led in coco. The short version is with only the feeds you are giving available, no nutrient in the medium, add in that you are using ro water, zero background elements (something I personally like in coco), now factor in that even dimmed you are likely using far more light than actually needed for this stage... plants will show all sorts of deficiencies early on.

I want you to give the foliar feed of Epsom salts for the "load up" I mentioned in a earlier post in the diary. It's not uncommon to see calcium and magnesium deficiencies at the stage you are, they will often display differently in coco under led in early-mid veg. I'll download the video and send it to you as its currently not available on the YouTube channel. You'll see exactly what I mean and how its no issue and easily fixed.

As the plants are already a little dark, I asked you to lower the feed a tad. The reason isn't that they are burning up, it's because the 2 day foliar feed of Epsom salts its going to darken them up further and likely burn the tips of leaves. Best to drop the feed for a few days before loading them up.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the top of the coco going so dry. But Cave will see the tag i done and let us know if thsts normal for bottom feeding systems.

For now carry on as you are, they are fine.

[2-Scoops]

Id be looking at adding calmag to all my grows if using those ferts with RO water Anova to an ec around 0.4. Reasons being is coco holds onto and hogs calcium releasing it slowly, I'm not totally sure but if those ferts are coco specific which usually have extra calcium added cus of first said reason. Surprised your seeing what looks like calcium def starting so early though especially in that system because a decent branded coco should come buffered with calmag beforehand and what with that set up not being run to waste, well yes im surprised. If its a coco that hasn`t been buffered beforehand id be looking at pre-soaking it in a calmag solution around 3 to 4 ml per litre overnight at ph5.8 just to buffer it properly before planting out next grow.

[anova.330]

A few changes I plan on making later on this week.

Going to redo the reservoir. Complete drain and replace with Flora flex nutrients. Also going to use Cal mag with this one.

I will switch over to using H2O2 instead of hydro guard. Rate will be 5 mL per gallon 12%.

I have a Flora flex foliar spray for veg. Haven’t used it yet but I will soon.

[Marcus]

Don't trim the leaves off that are damaged.

Back off the base nutrients a tad please.

Leave the hydro guard for now. If the res has shrunk only a little and the coco looks so dry I wonder if there is a flow issue.

That coco looks pretty dry, are these autopots adjustable as in flow or is the top being a bit dry normal as it's bottom fed?

@Cave Hill Cole

I think this is more of a disease than anything. I don’t see any black dots of excrement underneath the leaves. I don’t see trails to, and from these white or copper colored dots on my leaves.

I added 3 gallons of RO water to the reservoir to bring down the nutrition level.

PPM is now 938. EC is 1.8. Before, PPM was over 1600 and EC was about 2.6. I’m not real sure how to read these meters but I know those numbers are too high. PH was at 6.03. I have to take some measurements again because I need to pH down to 5.8 5.6.

Here’s another picture. I really think it’s disease.

Have them yellow bits gone brown now?

If so, I'll say feed issue. If still yellow, then, some sort of viral thing.

Fuck knows, top water them till they've rooted out a bit more maybe? Don't leave them sitting in their own piss.

[anova.330]

Have them yellow bits gone brown now?

If so, I'll say feed issue. If still yellow, then, some sort of viral thing.

Fuck knows, top water them till they've rooted out a bit more maybe? Don't leave them sitting in their own piss.

No, if anything, the yellowish spots turn bright white. Then I think the leaf turns kind of paper-ish. That’s of course before it goes full-blown necrotic. Fuck knows.

I’m reluctant to top water until I flush this reservoir.

[anova.330]

All right, flushed the reservoir. Ended up with 6 gallons RO water, a half teaspoon of V1 and V2, 20 mL of Calmag, 40 mL of H2O2. If I am reading the meter correctly, 1.2 EC. PH to 5.5-ish.

Will get on the foliar feed shortly. Probably won’t top feed as I’m not convinced to do it.

[2-Scoops]

Ended up with 6 gallons RO water, a half teaspoon of V1 and V2, 20 mL of Calmag, 40 mL of H2O2. If I am reading the meter correctly, 1.2 EC. PH to 5.5-ish.

EC is ms/cm or us/cm. Suppose it depends what we are used too and how we put it. Us British lot have always tended to use ms/cm which is 1.2EC where as EC in us/cm for same reading would be 1200. PPM if using US instruments tends to be EC in us/cm divided 2 or other way around (PPM X 2=EC) depending what reading your wanting. Hope that helps ya, it might sound a bit mumbo-jumbo`ish knowing how i put things across.

IMO your wanting around 1.0-1.2ec (1000-1200us/cm) base ferts and add 0.40ec (400us/cm) calmag to a total around 1.4-1.6 (1400-1600us/cm).