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No problem @DIY.Rik. Sometimes having a run-off is impractical. Salts will build up but a decent flushing solution will break that all down and pull it through the system.

I found Flash Klean to be excellent at doing the job. https://www.terraaquatica.com/flushing- ... lashclean/
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That’s interesting to know @seymore_budz
I’m on my first coco grow, normally I’m in nft and change water tanks once a week, in nft by now I would have all sorts of discolouration and constantly chasing imbalances in nutes/ph.
Since using coco and getting rid of my runoff this grow has stayed green from the start right through to the 7th week of flower with no discolouration.
I am using different nutes to usual but tbh I put the success so far down to the fact they are being flushed every day instead of once a week.
Who knows, that’s just my observations so far, seems coco is slower than nft but you get healthier plants more easier, just means I have to feed daily to keep it fresh. Works for me, got it down to a fine art now and keeping runoff to a minimum.
Whatever works for you I guess, I’m open to trying different things
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Vador wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:54 pm
That’s interesting to know @seymore_budz
I’m on my first coco grow, normally I’m in nft and change water tanks once a week, in nft by now I would have all sorts of discolouration and constantly chasing imbalances in nutes/ph.
Since using coco and getting rid of my runoff this grow has stayed green from the start right through to the 7th week of flower with no discolouration.
I am using different nutes to usual but tbh I put the success so far down to the fact they are being flushed every day instead of once a week.
Who knows, that’s just my observations so far, seems coco is slower than nft but you get healthier plants more easier, just means I have to feed daily to keep it fresh. Works for me, got it down to a fine art now and keeping runoff to a minimum.
Whatever works for you I guess, I’m open to trying different things
Having a run-off will 100% keep things optimal within the root-zone and your plants will be loving life. It's not wrong to do so but it's not really essential for success. You can recycle the run off in something like a Wilma system and not worry too much about build up of salts if you're periodically flushing.

NFT can be difficult to manage due to you having 0 buffer as there's no media. Corrections work fast but things can go wrong pretty quickly too. Most of the time it's a roots issue. Due to the a subset of the roots being constantly submerged in the water, it can very very easy to pick up some unwanted microlife. TBH, that's the issue when you see these wild PH swings and leaf damage occurs. IMO, the safest way to protect against such issues in NFT/aeroponics/DWC where there is little too no media and the roots are submerged is to either run enzymes & tricaderma additives or go down the serilie route and use lots of peroxide. I've heard many have great success with silver peroxide as the silver stabilises the peroxide and it stays in the solution for longer. You could run Hygrozyme with silver peroxide too to ensure anything organic and dead gets munched up.
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That’s very interesting @seymore_budz, would explain a lot of issues I’ve had over the years.
Like I say this is my first time in coco and so far if things keep going the way they are I won’t be going back to nft, don’t get me wrong I had lots of good grows in nft but they all came with small issues along the way.
Coco just seems foolproof so far
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Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:12 pm
That’s very interesting @seymore_budz, would explain a lot of issues I’ve had over the years.
Like I say this is my first time in coco and so far if things keep going the way they are I won’t be going back to nft, don’t get me wrong I had lots of good grows in nft but they all came with small issues along the way.
Coco just seems foolproof so far
I agree, these subset of hydroponics systems that use just water can be very unpredictable where as coir is ... in the words of Theresa May "strong and stable" :lol:
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seymore_budz wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:37 pm
No problem @DIY.Rik. Sometimes having a run-off is impractical. Salts will build up but a decent flushing solution will break that all down and pull it through the system.

I found Flash Klean to be excellent at doing the job. https://www.terraaquatica.com/flushing- ... lashclean/
Again, I'd just use Aloe Vera for this.
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DIY.Rik wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:03 pm
seymore_budz wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:37 pm
No problem @DIY.Rik. Sometimes having a run-off is impractical. Salts will build up but a decent flushing solution will break that all down and pull it through the system.

I found Flash Klean to be excellent at doing the job. https://www.terraaquatica.com/flushing- ... lashclean/
Again, I'd just use Aloe Vera for this.
In this instance Aloe Vera may not cut it. Although it contains auxins and I think it can act as a chelator, it won't do as good as a job as a flushing agent. Not only that, a good quality flushing agent will contain enough nutrients to not upset osmosis within the root zone and keep those pumps working. Would be interested to see a side by side comparison though.
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seymore_budz wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:15 pm
DIY.Rik wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:03 pm
seymore_budz wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:37 pm
No problem @DIY.Rik. Sometimes having a run-off is impractical. Salts will build up but a decent flushing solution will break that all down and pull it through the system.

I found Flash Klean to be excellent at doing the job. https://www.terraaquatica.com/flushing- ... lashclean/
Again, I'd just use Aloe Vera for this.
In this instance Aloe Vera may not cut it. Although it contains auxins and I think it can act as a chelator, it won't do as good as a job as a flushing agent. Not only that, a good quality flushing agent will contain enough nutrients to not upset osmosis within the root zone and keep those pumps working. Would be interested to see a side by side comparison though.
I'm chasing buds into jars mate.

Sod the comparison for now.

Sure you're right about flushing, chelate factors of the real deal.
I'll just use what I already have in stock to use for now.

I have everything on order now for the coco grow anyway.

I've designed a system to store and collect my run off. Nice fancy air pot. Now let's grow a monster 👻 👽 😜

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It seems to me that some little tinkerbell has been around with her pixie friends stealing me buds.....

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...........stealthy something has anyway :lol:

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