Dosi 'no hermie bollocks please' dos

[Guest]

Growers ark?

Yeah that wasone of them.

Thje quality of some of the water is appaulling in places.

[Nom]

Ok we've worked our way upto 1.5ml A&B now EC 1.6 and pH6.0 in. Ec1.4 and ph 6.0 out. Still with 1ml root stim aswel. Roots showing from the bottom of the pots also gave a foliar of epsom today at half tea spoon per litre. Lights are off at the moment so pics to follow.
I'll start adding a weelky foliar of evolution from tomorrow aswel
http://www.plant-magic.co.uk/products/evolution/6/
Wont be spraying lights on though

[Nom]

Maybe it's me but i feel like their starting to look like they may be on the mend

[Captain Beefheart]

looks to me like they need a good square meal bach imho. up the ferts

oh + btw fuk them drippers off they cause more problems than its worth ...hand water the fukas ewe lazy git. duw duw fukin gadgets again

[Josh]

I agree with Cap on this one, they look ok but hungry for sure

[2-Scoops]

Yes for sure they looking hungry im with everyone elses opinion defo looking hungry, so they are either looking hungry from lockout of somesort or simply just undeferting, id say latter if ph is right and you`ve not faffed about with anything much, but i dont know EC of your tap water and i didnt see you say it or i missed it and i did look back. But put any weed plant that size on a fert ec of on top of whatever ec your water is and theirs no way they`d be underfed.

So lets say you have a hardwater of only EC of 0.4 + 1.2fert ec =1.6ec in total that`s way to go and do it, and iff your doing it like that summink else is up like lockout of some sort, cus they`re still small plants and you can grow monsters without a sweat on a fert ec of 1.2-1.4, but yes either do that as said if your not or do the Marcus thing giving 2ml a litre and 3ml first 3 weeks of bloom before dropping it back with AnB ferts, its much easier. What is EC of just your water anyhow ?

Look at fulvic acid too that helps lots with uptake of ferts and getting them where they are needed fast, i used to use Vitalink fulvic but man it fucks with ph dropping it big time good proper, its cool if your using summink silicon that does opposite of drop, but best the one i found and am using atmo that doesn`t effect ph at all is made by Green Planet called GPF Uptake. But tis a good additive that helps with this type of stuff.

[Nom]

Awesome fellas i'll keep bringing the feed up by the sounds of it. @2-Scoops my background EC is 0.7 and I'm upto 1.5ml of A&B which lands me at a combined EC of 1.6 so I'm guessing thats ferting at 0.9 and I should be 0.3 - 0.5 higher.
@Captain Beefheart tis true I am a lazy gadget using fucker, now I better go and make some more of those @Josh drip rings

[Nom]

Now it seems to me like I've completely missed the point on how to feed. What I've been doing is working it out as a combined background and feed ec, so if someone tells me to feed at 1.2 say then I've been going background 0.7 plus feed ec 0.5 to get me to 1.2. So everytime i get a deficiency i think brown = burnt and want to back off. Been going on like that for a year or so

Whats going in my res
Tap water background 0.7
Root stim @1ml per litre
A&B at currently 1.5ml per litre which im going to take up to 2ml and check combined tap water and feed ec lands at 1.9 - 2.1
Enzyme @1ml per litre (i was planning in reusing me coco)
Line cleaner that also acts as ph down 1.5ml per litre and about half a mil of phosphoric to take it to ph 5. 8 which i then feed with until it rises to 6.2 and then i reset it.

Other stuffs i can add from the cupboard but havnt been using yet
Supervit
Silicone the buddhas tree solar green
Magnacal+

For flower a choice of
Canna pk13/14
Mills ultimate pk 7/6
Vitalink buddy
Plant magic platinum pk 9/18

Well maybe another piece of the jigsaw has just slotted in, we shall see. I love this community

[2-Scoops]

Awesome fellas i'll keep bringing the feed up by the sounds of it. @2-Scoops my background EC is 0.7 and I'm upto 1.5ml of A&B which lands me at a combined EC of 1.6 so I'm guessing thats ferting at 0.9 and I should be 0.3 - 0.5 higher.

Well you know crack now, so those plants should be sound 1.0 to 1.2 fert ec so 1.7 to 1.9ec total. Their should be no need to go over 2.0 ec total the whole grow tbh mate. But i think you`ve cracked it now. :)

[2-Scoops]

Now it seems to me like I've completely missed the point on how to feed. What I've been doing is working it out as a combined background and feed ec, so if someone tells me to feed at 1.2 say then I've been going background 0.7 plus feed ec 0.5 to get me to 1.2. So everytime i get a deficiency i think brown = burnt and want to back off. Been going on like that for a year or so

Whats going in my res
Tap water background 0.7
Root stim @1ml per litre
A&B at currently 1.5ml per litre which im going to take up to 2ml and check combined tap water and feed ec lands at 1.9 - 2.1
Enzyme @1ml per litre (i was planning in reusing me coco)
Line cleaner that also acts as ph down 1.5ml per litre and about half a mil of phosphoric to take it to ph 5. 8 which i then feed with until it rises to 6.2 and then i reset it.

Other stuffs i can add from the cupboard but havnt been using yet
Supervit
Silicone the buddhas tree solar green
Magnacal+

For flower a choice of
Canna pk13/14
Mills ultimate pk 7/6
Vitalink buddy
Plant magic platinum pk 9/18

Well maybe another piece of the jigsaw has just slotted in, we shall see. I love this community

Silicon is good stuff i use from day one right up to end when i totally cut ferts and additives off for water only feeds for 2weeks, then i chop.

Summink like supervit im presuming is similar to superthrive i just use it once a week and whenever theirs a bit of stress goping down, like flipping to 12/12, topping, supercropping lollipopping and so on.

Can`t see point of calmag iff you giving right amount of base ferts, stick it back in cupboard.

Pk 13/14 i started giving it plants a blast of it at 2 weeks into 12/12 for a week only 0.5ml a ltr my last grow and then i always use it around same rate for 3 weeks before cutting ferts and additives out at end

Buddy is ok but not to be used with pk13/15

Never used the PM pk9/18 boost but dont use with other same as buddy and pk13/14, its one or other that applies to Mills as well. The lower numbered pk boosts like Mills and buddy could prolly use the whole of flower till cut of time, Theirs lots of different ways to jiggle around how you use those tbh just dont use at same time.

Enzymes i`d prolly save till next grow and use it when you reuse coco to help break down old dead roots in medium, first grow with new coco using those synthetic type ferts tbh i can`t see point of it, so save it and save some £-dosh