Billys big bubbling buds, with green qube and invisible sun.

[Bulls]

Congrats on the chop mate. That's something I foudn out with leds. Top buds are very good BUT fluffier down the line. I don't think you can beat the hps for penetration.

[bigbadbillybob]

yep, Bulls, you're right there.
i think LEDS would work much better on a scrog .
The HPS is king of penetration.

[2-Scoops]

Congrats on the chop mate. That's something I foudn out with leds. Top buds are very good BUT fluffier down the line. I don't think you can beat the hps for penetration.

yep, Bulls, you're right there.
i think LEDS would work much better on a scrog .
The HPS is king of penetration.

Very refreshing to here some guys actually prefer hps over led and lets face it we really know what king of lighting is for growing big fat heavy crystal laden buds guys . All i seem to here these days is LED this that an t`other, makes for a good chuckle though when im reading how good they are and better than hps . Oh and it might seem im knocking LED lights and im not tis just how i see it, cus i`ll be growing with them again come Summer, that said if i could get away using hps i would in Summer Maybe im doing summink wrong when growing with them cus no way have i got close to what i pull in my small room using a 400hps, ok ive only done about 4 grows with led in their, but top led spec lighting used on all grows from 500+ wattage draw Cree cob to 350watt draw Samsung quantum, feck knows i can`t be growing with them rightly is how i see it, but i shall percivere with LED come some Summer and try a new mix of 450watt draw Samsung quantum, see if that pulls anything like the 400hps, i dont hold out much hope though tbh. But to me my own observations when ive been growing with LED is yes it grows them bang on right up to that final stage and last 2 or 3 weeks when they're really packing on weight big time in that final stage iff using hps well the LED just seems to not have that final push for that big fat umph in comparison.

[Bulls]

I've grown with old purple leds, hps, cobs, quantum boards, cdms and I must say the easiest is HPS. I've been currently stuck with cdms and yes I do like them. I got 3 x 315w but in winters I replace rhe middle one with hps and...boom the mix is insane. If I could run 3 x hps in there i would and maybe if I have the chance I'd try 3 x 400w hps maybe but i Don't have the ballasts.

[bigbadbillybob]

i remember seeing an insane scrog on youtoob, where the bloke was using either 4 or 6 HPS lights set at 250 watts, nice and close to the canopy. the screen was filled to perfection and his yeild was insane. you could have stuck a level on it....i remember thinking maybe you dont need a lot of watts, but a level canopy to do really well, he was doing near 2 GPW out of it, it was very very impressive, and in coco too, must have been a ball ache watering them all, but worth it obvs

[2-Scoops]

i remember seeing an insane scrog on youtoob, where the bloke was using either 4 or 6 HPS lights set at 250 watts, nice and close to the canopy. the screen was filled to perfection and his yeild was insane. you could have stuck a level on it....i remember thinking maybe you dont need a lot of watts, but a level canopy to do really well, he was doing near 2 GPW out of it, it was very very impressive, and in coco too, must have been a ball ache watering them all, but worth it obvs

I don`t know whether you remember Flip i think his name was from over at a very old forum we used once uopon a time (thcsummink or other lol ) but yes check his scrogs out if thery are still theitr, i mean were talking over ten years ago here but he knew how to scrog it up too mate.