Minty - AutoPot Grow - Assisted by 2-Scoops

[The Supreme Weeder]

I've been wondering about autopost Vs sips and quadgrows, how are you finding them mate?

[Minty]

I've been wondering about autopost Vs sips and quadgrows, how are you finding them mate?

AutoPots so far are Awesome - Once you get the Root Control Socks!

Sips and QuadGrows I have no heard of apart from @GMO mentioning SIPS and Spartan in the same sentence - hopefully he will direct you mate.

Far as the my experience of the AutoPots goes, real lazy grow and something has to go wrong soon, but we shall see...

[2-Scoops]

Yes mate i`d like a pop at time lapsae but im like Billy so techi stuff needs putting in laymans terms for me.

Yes those numbers will grow you some lovely weed.

ROX i know or knew of is/was nasty stuff that contains synthetic PGR`s known to cause aggresive tumours on soft organs, tis only what ive read and been told like. But i tend to steer clear of anything without manufacterers name or ingredients plastered around on bottle amongst other things like theirs very little online info on it from makers, like fuck can you find a makers name or site who makes the stuff. Whether they`ve changed ingredients in it or not i just don`t know but if they have why not shout about it and that you`ve made it safe. It is or was nasty stuff. Dodgy synthetic PGR`s that are usually used in these type of boosts are paclobutrazol and daminozide very toxic to your liver or so ive read. End of shift get your environment right and plantys will reward you better than any boost can. You could alaways fire some emails off to retailers asking whats ingredients and who makes it i suppose before buying. More for use with ornamentals this type of stuff if it does contain dodgy PGR`s still that is.

[Labs Dexter]

On another note @Minty plants look tip top. So i read your starting feeding pk 13/14 boost now at start of week 5, run that at 1/2ml per liter for 3 weeks so ignore instructions, i tend to start it at week 6 for 3 weeks on a 10 weeker strain, but week 5 is sound. You need to think about lowering fert levels too i think. But yes tell me what your giving them now mate and at what EC cus plants will start to slow down on uptake in coming weeks and you don`t wan`t build up of fert salts in that system it can be a mare to sort when plants are full sized. Cheers mukka. :)

Hey mate,

PK wise I have decided to move away from PK 13/14 and use Rocks Resignator which is NPK: 0-7-8 and from my research I feel more comfortable using that. Downside being it's expensive and like Unicorn Shit to obtain at the moment so I did end up paying over the odd's for it! But still less than I would have spent on Street Weed just this week if I hadn't had my own 'medicine' to smoke mate and it should last me ages.

Stats tonight are looking like (temps high because of dehumifier being on) - but my understanding is better to have high temps and low RH? Although I can adjust that tomorrow to stay around 55% RH before kicking in etc.



The last nutrient recordings are:-

I prefer buddy by vitalinks it's cheap and does what I think it does lol

[2-Scoops]

Yes mate i`d like a pop at time lapsae but im like Billy so techi stuff needs putting in laymans terms for me.

Yes those numbers will grow you some lovely weed.

ROX i know or knew of is/was nasty stuff that contains synthetic PGR`s known to cause aggresive tumours on soft organs, tis only what ive read and been told like. But i tend to steer clear of anything without manufacterers name or ingredients plastered around on bottle amongst other things like theirs very little online info on it from makers, like fuck can you find a makers name or site who makes the stuff. Whether they`ve changed ingredients in it or not i just don`t know but if they have why not shout about it and that you`ve made it safe. It is or was nasty stuff. Dodgy synthetic PGR`s that are usually used in these type of boosts are paclobutrazol and daminozide very toxic to your liver or so ive read. End of shift get your environment right and plantys will reward you better than any boost can. You could alaways fire some emails off to retailers asking whats ingredients and who makes it i suppose before buying. More for use with ornamentals this type of stuff if it does contain dodgy PGR`s still that is.

RE this ^^^

So me being me i fired some emails off yesterday to 3 grow shops who sell this shit on. Acting all stupid and daft like (not very hard) but just to satify myself as to whether these shops know they`re are selling potentially lethal cancer causing additives to you or i. So yes deep down i know that most iff not all prolly do, but they don`t give a rats fuck none of these shops, it`s all about taking your cash. So i didn`t put the product in the originol email i sent, (like i forgot cus im a stooppid fool) as i know these shops are reluctant to talk about the dodgy shit they sell on to not so clued up people is how i see it amongst other things. But yes so up to now out of the 3 emails i sent i got one reply back. I mean its summink ive done before is this many years ago but i started reading people say they`ve changed recipe on this ROX now. Anyhow here`s where im up too on it all from one reply ive had up to now. >>

My first sent email > "So im looking at this product could you tell me who makes the stuff and give a ingredients list of what it contains ? I`m looking online for info before i purchase and i can`t find squat on it. Thanks"


Grow shops reply > "Good Afternoon. Please send over the item which you require and I can send over this information"

( So I`ve gotta bite, now let`s go for it and see iff i can reel them in. )

Me>> "Sorry im a real dope at times mate, the product im inquiring about is called ROX"

Grow shop>> "Good Morning. Thank you for your message.This item contains humates, seaweed extract, organic acids,PGRs and triacontanol. "

me >> "Is that all it say on the bottle, is their not a manufacturers name on bottle and what other PGR`s does it contain ? Why i ask the last part is iff it contains other PGR`s or synthetic PGR`s except for naturally occurring ones like Triacontanol i think i`ll leave it this time. I`d really like makers name please. Thanks alot. :)"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So that`s where im up too now. So the cats out of the bag, now that ive mentioned ROX let`s iff these guys either get really cagey with answers like last reply or the person replying to my email is genuinely clueless as to what they are selling on to us growers and has given me the meat or info on that`s on the bottle (quite possible these days, for sure lots of grow shop workers are bloody clueless nowadays). But if that l;ast bit is the case, well to me that bottle contains other PGR`s the maker aren`t preppaired to list on their bottle.

Tbh here in UK its fucked up right good style for growers, the fert market for weed growers is totally unregulated. so shops, well they can sell on any stuff they like to get your cash that`s gonna be killing us and they do and it will and we have lots of clueless gullible peeps out their that buy this stuff on say so of a grow shop counter assistant, either that or lots of cash croppers in the know start using it, tis bloody shocking i tell you, unlike in the US they have it regulated and i don`t think can sell anything fert wise without full list of ingredients on bottle and then it still needs passing by their "agricultural oversee`er" ive forgot their name but think it`s called OMRI ? Anyhow back to story, let`s see how far we get now i know what im talking about all of a sudden hey and let`s see if i get any other replies from other unscrupulous grow shops supplying it hey.....If this shop keeps replying lets see where i can take and see if i can get it took off their shelves

[MrNice]

Yes mate i`d like a pop at time lapsae but im like Billy so techi stuff needs putting in laymans terms for me.

Yes those numbers will grow you some lovely weed.

ROX i know or knew of is/was nasty stuff that contains synthetic PGR`s known to cause aggresive tumours on soft organs, tis only what ive read and been told like. But i tend to steer clear of anything without manufacterers name or ingredients plastered around on bottle amongst other things like theirs very little online info on it from makers, like fuck can you find a makers name or site who makes the stuff. Whether they`ve changed ingredients in it or not i just don`t know but if they have why not shout about it and that you`ve made it safe. It is or was nasty stuff. Dodgy synthetic PGR`s that are usually used in these type of boosts are paclobutrazol and daminozide very toxic to your liver or so ive read. End of shift get your environment right and plantys will reward you better than any boost can. You could alaways fire some emails off to retailers asking whats ingredients and who makes it i suppose before buying. More for use with ornamentals this type of stuff if it does contain dodgy PGR`s still that is.

RE this ^^^

So me being me i fired some emails off yesterday to 3 grow shops who sell this shit on. Acting all stupid and daft like (not very hard) but just to satify myself as to whether these shops know they`re are selling potentially lethal cancer causing additives to you or i. So yes deep down i know that most iff not all prolly do, but they don`t give a rats fuck none of these shops, it`s all about taking your cash. So i didn`t put the product in the originol email i sent, (like i forgot cus im a stooppid fool) as i know these shops are reluctant to talk about the dodgy shit they sell on to not so clued up people is how i see it amongst other things. But yes so up to now out of the 3 emails i sent i got one reply back. I mean its summink ive done before is this many years ago but i started reading people say they`ve changed recipe on this ROX now. Anyhow here`s where im up too on it all from one reply ive had up to now. >>

My first sent email > "So im looking at this product could you tell me who makes the stuff and give a ingredients list of what it contains ? I`m looking online for info before i purchase and i can`t find squat on it. Thanks"


Grow shops reply > "Good Afternoon. Please send over the item which you require and I can send over this information"

( So I`ve gotta bite, now let`s go for it and see iff i can reel them in. )

Me>> "Sorry im a real dope at times mate, the product im inquiring about is called ROX"

Grow shop>> "Good Morning. Thank you for your message.This item contains humates, seaweed extract, organic acids,PGRs and triacontanol. "

me >> "Is that all it say on the bottle, is their not a manufacturers name on bottle and what other PGR`s does it contain ? Why i ask the last part is iff it contains other PGR`s or synthetic PGR`s except for naturally occurring ones like Triacontanol i think i`ll leave it this time. I`d really like makers name please. Thanks alot. :)"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So that`s where im up too now. So the cats out of the bag, now that ive mentioned ROX let`s iff these guys either get really cagey with answers like last reply or the person replying to my email is genuinely clueless as to what they are selling on to us growers and has given me the meat or info on that`s on the bottle (quite possible these days, for sure lots of grow shop workers are bloody clueless nowadays). But if that l;ast bit is the case, well to me that bottle contains other PGR`s the maker aren`t preppaired to list on their bottle.

Tbh here in UK its fucked up right good style for growers, the fert market for weed growers is totally unregulated. so shops, well they can sell on any stuff they like to get your cash that`s gonna be killing us and they do and it will and we have lots of clueless gullible peeps out their that buy this stuff on say so of a grow shop counter assistant, either that or lots of cash croppers in the know start using it, tis bloody shocking i tell you, unlike in the US they have it regulated and i don`t think can sell anything fert wise without full list of ingredients on bottle and then it still needs passing by their "agricultural oversee`er" ive forgot their name but think it`s called OMRI ? Anyhow back to story, let`s see how far we get now i know what im talking about all of a sudden hey and let`s see if i get any other replies from other unscrupulous grow shops supplying it hey.....If this shop keeps replying lets see where i can take and see if i can get it took off their shelves

Thanks 2scoops we need people like your self to keep us all safe didnt know this about ROX dont think ill ever use it tho

one reason why started growing my self you never know whats in the street weed have no idea what ive been smoking over many years now
Il be following along now got my ears twicked would be nice to have a list on GR420 of shit not to use
I remember GMO was talking about a product they dont make now because the companie
wouldnt disclose what was in there bottle nutes think it was some think shark
you might know

Thanks 2scoops very helpful

Your a true scholar

[2-Scoops]

Yes mate i`d like a pop at time lapsae but im like Billy so techi stuff needs putting in laymans terms for me.

Yes those numbers will grow you some lovely weed.

ROX i know or knew of is/was nasty stuff that contains synthetic PGR`s known to cause aggresive tumours on soft organs, tis only what ive read and been told like. But i tend to steer clear of anything without manufacterers name or ingredients plastered around on bottle amongst other things like theirs very little online info on it from makers, like fuck can you find a makers name or site who makes the stuff. Whether they`ve changed ingredients in it or not i just don`t know but if they have why not shout about it and that you`ve made it safe. It is or was nasty stuff. Dodgy synthetic PGR`s that are usually used in these type of boosts are paclobutrazol and daminozide very toxic to your liver or so ive read. End of shift get your environment right and plantys will reward you better than any boost can. You could alaways fire some emails off to retailers asking whats ingredients and who makes it i suppose before buying. More for use with ornamentals this type of stuff if it does contain dodgy PGR`s still that is.

RE this ^^^

So me being me i fired some emails off yesterday to 3 grow shops who sell this shit on. Acting all stupid and daft like (not very hard) but just to satify myself as to whether these shops know they`re are selling potentially lethal cancer causing additives to you or i. So yes deep down i know that most iff not all prolly do, but they don`t give a rats fuck none of these shops, it`s all about taking your cash. So i didn`t put the product in the originol email i sent, (like i forgot cus im a stooppid fool) as i know these shops are reluctant to talk about the dodgy shit they sell on to not so clued up people is how i see it amongst other things. But yes so up to now out of the 3 emails i sent i got one reply back. I mean its summink ive done before is this many years ago but i started reading people say they`ve changed recipe on this ROX now. Anyhow here`s where im up too on it all from one reply ive had up to now. >>

My first sent email > "So im looking at this product could you tell me who makes the stuff and give a ingredients list of what it contains ? I`m looking online for info before i purchase and i can`t find squat on it. Thanks"


Grow shops reply > "Good Afternoon. Please send over the item which you require and I can send over this information"

( So I`ve gotta bite, now let`s go for it and see iff i can reel them in. )

Me>> "Sorry im a real dope at times mate, the product im inquiring about is called ROX"

Grow shop>> "Good Morning. Thank you for your message.This item contains humates, seaweed extract, organic acids,PGRs and triacontanol. "

me >> "Is that all it say on the bottle, is their not a manufacturers name on bottle and what other PGR`s does it contain ? Why i ask the last part is iff it contains other PGR`s or synthetic PGR`s except for naturally occurring ones like Triacontanol i think i`ll leave it this time. I`d really like makers name please. Thanks alot. :)"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So that`s where im up too now. So the cats out of the bag, now that ive mentioned ROX let`s iff these guys either get really cagey with answers like last reply or the person replying to my email is genuinely clueless as to what they are selling on to us growers and has given me the meat or info on that`s on the bottle (quite possible these days, for sure lots of grow shop workers are bloody clueless nowadays). But if that l;ast bit is the case, well to me that bottle contains other PGR`s the maker aren`t preppaired to list on their bottle.

Tbh here in UK its fucked up right good style for growers, the fert market for weed growers is totally unregulated. so shops, well they can sell on any stuff they like to get your cash that`s gonna be killing us and they do and it will and we have lots of clueless gullible peeps out their that buy this stuff on say so of a grow shop counter assistant, either that or lots of cash croppers in the know start using it, tis bloody shocking i tell you, unlike in the US they have it regulated and i don`t think can sell anything fert wise without full list of ingredients on bottle and then it still needs passing by their "agricultural oversee`er" ive forgot their name but think it`s called OMRI ? Anyhow back to story, let`s see how far we get now i know what im talking about all of a sudden hey and let`s see if i get any other replies from other unscrupulous grow shops supplying it hey.....If this shop keeps replying lets see where i can take and see if i can get it took off their shelves

Thanks 2scoops we need people like your self to keep us all safe didnt know this about ROX dont think ill ever use it tho

one reason why started growing my self you never know whats in the street weed have no idea what ive been smoking over many years now
Il be following along now got my ears twicked would be nice to have a list on GR420 of shit not to use
I remember GMO was talking about a product they dont make now because the companie
wouldnt disclose what was in there bottle nutes think it was some think shark
you might know

Thanks 2scoops very helpful

Your a true scholar

Names of a few you should avoid like plagues are >> Bushmaster, phosphoload, gavity, top load and flower dragon, prolly ROX as well, well i would myself. Here`s a good read >>https://www.mountainjackpot.com/2015/03 ... uana-lono/

[Minty]

Nice sleuth work @2-Scoops, Seeing as @GMO has used it can we ask him if there are any ingredients listed? To be honest, I'm not looking into trying or anything I was just clarifying to @Mr Nice that there was a difference between ROX and Rocks.

Quick Day 117 Update while I am here. Tent cam is wankered (pixelated and I need to get another one) but still gives a good overall 'from the top shot' so I will still include it:-



Phone Cam shows the 'lighter one' is getting darker as she matures but still looks either behind the other one by about a week or just not getting as much feed but I have no idea how to resolve the 2nd possibility. She is the one with the roots growing out so I know the roots are down in the bottom...




To be honest I am not that fussed as it could even be down to just different seeds. Either way they are both looking healthy and are certainly the most healthy plants I have grown yet:-



Can't see any signs of insects yet, no nutrient burn, something has to go wrong soon otherwise AutoPots are boring ;o)

They are also so frosty - the fan leaves are getting covered in frost ;o)



Stats are currently:-

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[2-Scoops]

Nah its not feed man it can`t be in my book. I`m pretty sure it`s bloody different seeds that have been proper fucked around with genetically to create fems and in so doing im pretty sure that will give you lots of different pheno`s of that plant, im near on sure of it, not only that but how much have these seeds been stabilized and bred up to things like f3 or f4 so your getting just 1 or 2 different phenos instead of every bloody seeds different, ok maybe not that bad but lots more pheno`s, they never put those f1, f2 or f on packs these days or very few do, cus im of the opinion that lots don`t fuck about like that these days and send out either f1 or s1 generations make em and straight out for sale types, they`re greedy gums if ya ask me, dont get me wrong theirs a shout for using f1 if your searching for that unfound gem, but were not are we. I might be wrong though, but tis my thinking on jobby.

But yes if it was under ferting they would be showing more pale than that by now and going yellow with dead shit on leaves time its been in system. Colour has stayed same throughout @Minty

The sleauth work (i like that lol) but yes it was more cus ive read of people saying they`ve changed recipe now. Hmmm im not so sure. What a donkey though, yes i coulda given @GMO a shout see if he still has bottle for answers.

[GMO]

The bottle has no answers about what pgrs only lists the stuff ya wouldnt worry about tbh

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