Minty - AutoPot Grow - Assisted by 2-Scoops

[Minty]

Air con finally arrived and I likes it - still need to decide how it will fit into the whole GRoom Build but I have high hopes as the 3x dedicated ducts allows incoming fresh air stream, outgoing hot exhaust, and cold (10℃) difference into the tent. Putting the incoming feed also into the tent allows it to dehumidify as well.

Not fitted it into the loft etc yet but I have been running it with all three pipes just venting into the same room and it does cool for sure.

So far very impressed with the cooling and the noise levels (it does sound louder in the video than in real life) and it looks like a nice bit of kit which is portable.

[Minty]

Day 49 Update

Currently feeding at 1 EC / 500 ppm @ 6.3 pH but I think I am going to be getting another PEN so that I can be sure the reading are at least reasonable as not so sure anymore... Testing the water from my Hydro grow (and no idea why I didn't do this before) but the reading show discrepancies so at the very least I need a 3rd to be able to guess an average/confirm readings, etc.

They are still not in the main tent yet but are looking a little greener although not totally out of the woods as it were:-

They have only been bottom fed which means the roots must have reached the bottom and hopefully they should be fine once moved into the tent and into the AutoPot system. Hopefully get this done tomorrow but I really don't know if my assistance will arrive - might just do it myself but have to see as kinda hard for me on my own to move them up.

The likkle fecked up one in the pint can is the one I snapped in half so doing alrite I reckon ;o)

I did rework the pipes etc and move the un-used hydro pot out of the environment clearing up at least half of the available tent space:-

This will have to do in terms of available tent space until I can re-plan out the environment and make better use with piping etc.

All mostly learning here and I think (besides the total fuck ups I keep hitting along the way) - I am doing alright for a noob.

[2-Scoops]

Get us some pictures Minty please close ups of fucked up leaves etc as well as the plants on the whole, plants just aren`t looking right to me im unsure if they need a bit of calmag or not or is it early overfeeding or underfeeding im just unsure mate, i need a good look and still then i prolly won`t be sure knowing me, get them on 1.2ec in that system and theirs no need to up ferts right till end then mate.

[Minty]

Get us some pictures Minty please close ups of fucked up leaves etc as well as the plants on the whole, plants just aren`t looking right to me im unsure if they need a bit of calmag or not or is it early overfeeding or underfeeding im just unsure mate, i need a good look and still then i prolly won`t be sure knowing me, get them on 1.2ec in that system and theirs no need to up ferts right till end then mate.

Here you go mate - let me know if you need anymore or closeups etc.

From Left to Right -

• The first one is the one where the 'topping' worked - this plant is not using the AirDome.
• Middle is the one which the 'dropped' light split it in half - Opps, but she seems to be doing OK - this one is using the AirDome now;o)
• The right one is the original 'lighter' one - this one is using the AirDome now;o)

The 3x in Pint Cans are for the 1 Pint comp - Coco, Hydro and the original Hydro one I snapped in half in the perlite.



Left Plant:-



Middle Plant:-




Right Plant:-




In terms of CalMag mate, as you know I am using RO water and have been doing CalMag at 0.65ml per litre - I just checked the bottle and the recommended amount is 1.5ml per litre so perhaps I should adjust how much I am giving them and increase to 1ml per litre? Now that you mention it my RDWC plant has always shown signs of cal deficiency which I assumed was the root rot:-



It's more than possible I am just under dosing on the CalMag a little too much.

[2-Scoops]

They look hungry in one picture and not so hungry in another, fuck kniows but yes get calmag upped if its only half dose with that water, im clueless as to why they look so fucked honestly man. Fuck knows mate, just go with it. :)

[Minty]

They look hungry in one picture and not so hungry in another, fuck kniows but yes get calmag upped if its only half dose with that water, im clueless as to why they look so fucked honestly man. Fuck knows mate, just go with it. :)

I do think it is partly Calmag as all three of my grows are showing the same sort of issues with the main RDWC one showing serious signs. I have topped up my RDWC grow with some additional CalMag so should see that one react quite quickly if it is that.

Back of a leaf from the RDWC grow:-






Also feeding Silicone now and they seem to like that, cal mag wise I should probably move away from the RO and just deal with the TAP water ;o)

[Minty]

im clueless as to why they look so fucked honestly man. Fuck knows mate

Plenty of reasons why this could be mate and all of them totally on me:-

• I put far so many clay pebbles in the bottom of the pots- cause I'm an idiot.
• I put double the amount of copper matting (one inside and one outside the pots) - the 'light' plant (I suspect it's the light one but not sure which pot tbf) has two inside the pot and one outside - cause science and I'm an idiot.
• I was feeding them 'adjusted/diluted' run off for ages - my bad, but when your a noob it seems a shame to just throw it away - and I'm an idiot.
• I am pretty sure my PH pen is way off - The EC pen checks out against my more expensive probes in the RDWC but the PH does not. I will sort this soon - just trying to source some of those cheaper 'automated' probes so I can have dedicated ones within the AutoPot res similar to my RDWC build.. I will try to at least calibrate my existing one tomorrow.

Thank you for sticky around through all my noob mistakes buddy. It is really appreciated, as is all the feedback from everyone else on here.

[2-Scoops]

I`d be checking your run off it all possible, basically tyurn system off and sling some ferts through top and if that`s saying everything is ok then i`d be upping ferts a wee bit as well mate. I forgot what they are on but try 1.2 AnB wise, shits can be just as simple as upping fertrs alot of the time no need for rest of stuff peeps add. Why i said check run off is cus it looks like overferting, then undefertding at times and then lockout caused by overferting.

Are those eggs on back of leaves or dead necrotic scabs showing on other side of leaf too, if scabs prolly calcium def. :)

[Minty]

I`d be checking your run off it all possible, basically tyurn system off and sling some ferts through top and if that`s saying everything is ok then i`d be upping ferts a wee bit as well mate. I forgot what they are on but try 1.2 AnB wise, shits can be just as simple as upping fertrs alot of the time no need for rest of stuff peeps add. Why i said check run off is cus it looks like overferting, then undefertding at times and then lockout caused by overferting.

Are those eggs on back of leaves or dead necrotic scabs showing on other side of leaf too, if scabs prolly calcium def. :)

Hey mate, they are still not on the system at the min and I have been bottom feeding them manually each day. I will wait until the trays dry out then chuck some feed via the top and report back. I think it is all just a little messed up and will hopefully settle down a bit. The soil was not completely flushed so I think some lock out is probably going on as you suggest and will up the EC to 1.2 for the top feed. What PH should I be aiming for with the top feed mate?

Sorry Bro, the leaf pics are from my other plant and no insects or eggs etc that I can see. The marks are like burn's going thru the leaf and I only posted because I suspect all my other plants are suffering from the same lack of CalMag due to my mistake of applying the 'use 1/4 of the recommended nutrient dosing' to the CalMag schedule as well. I think this should have probably been more around 1ml per litre than the .65ml per litre or even the recommended 1.5ml. Sorry for cross posting misleading images mate.

Thank you 2 Scoops, and I don't want to arse lick - but I can't thank you enough for helping me and ignoring my obvious mistakes mate. I know you wanted to smash this and that aint gonna happen - not with me driving ;o) - so I do really appreciate you sticking with me mate.

If I get anything to smoke in my world that is a win so there is totally no pressure on you at all mate ;o)

[2-Scoops]

Well all ive seen on here is peeps give this system the old heave-ho after little use when it can proper rock it up and smash out big yield after yield. I helped a guy at another forum i use and he got >>>

34oz from his first grow with 8 auto plants here > https://www.t-g-c.nl/forum/index.php/to ... toextreme/

and

84oz his second grow from 8 photoperiod plants here > https://www.t-g-c.nl/forum/index.php/to ... ope-style/

Your not best listener either for following instructions but at end of shift i can understand that only too well myself, neither am i , but yes you can use those links as a reference for help with future grows maybe hey...... :D

I`d prolly switch to Canna, Vitalink or Growers Ark ferts and start using your tap water as well next grow alongside a splash of calmag if needs be. Growers Ark guys will actually tailor make you ferts for your water if needs be but usually using correct hard or softwater ferts should do jobby. https://growers-ark.com/products/water-analysis A top fert maker ive used many many times, atmo im using Vitalink though. :)