2 White Widow from Dutch Passion

[Guest]

Hey DIY.Rik,

That indeed looks like a K deficiency. It's hard to say without knowing what you've used exactly but my guess is you've added blood and bone that will give you N & P but you've not added anything to provide K. You could do with adding some hardwood ash. If you're UK, maybe try some palm tree ash? Anyway, once you've replied to GMO's question, he will get you on the right track. Good luck bud!

Thanks Grumpy Grower. It's good to hear other growers reading the plant the same as me so your reply is still valuable man.

I think I'm going to try adding something later to it. Previously mentioned in my reply to GMO.

[seymore_budz]

Hey DIY.Rik,

That indeed looks like a K deficiency. It's hard to say without knowing what you've used exactly but my guess is you've added blood and bone that will give you N & P but you've not added anything to provide K. You could do with adding some hardwood ash. If you're UK, maybe try some palm tree ash? Anyway, once you've replied to GMO's question, he will get you on the right track. Good luck bud!

Thanks Grumpy Grower. It's good to hear other growers reading the plant the same as me so your reply is still valuable man.

I think I'm going to try adding something later to it. Previously mentioned in my reply to GMO.

No problem DIY.Rik. you won't kill any beanies by adding K to the mix. Stick around 0.2g per litre and you'll be back on track.

Just on a tangent, did you say you was adjusting the PH ?

[Guest]

Hey DIY.Rik,

That indeed looks like a K deficiency. It's hard to say without knowing what you've used exactly but my guess is you've added blood and bone that will give you N & P but you've not added anything to provide K. You could do with adding some hardwood ash. If you're UK, maybe try some palm tree ash? Anyway, once you've replied to GMO's question, he will get you on the right track. Good luck bud!

Thanks Grumpy Grower. It's good to hear other growers reading the plant the same as me so your reply is still valuable man.

I think I'm going to try adding something later to it. Previously mentioned in my reply to GMO.

No problem DIY.Rik. you won't kill any beanies by adding K to the mix. Stick around 0.2g per litre and you'll be back on track.

Just on a tangent, did you say you was adjusting the PH ?

No it's ok I'm an artist at tangents

I had already started to adjust the PH. I was giving them more like 6.5 to 6.8 before in early veg.

Later in veg I got the discoloured leaves so I hit the one plant with 5.8 and the healthy one to 6.2

Since then I flipped into flower and it has improved day by day. Although the one obviously is still hungry by the looks of it.

It's good for me though as i'm now learning more about reading the plant and what they need.

I will give it a little K later. The Raw stuff all seems pretty good stuff anyway? Canadian I think. My Kelp powder also comes from Canada too.

I will evaluate things later though. As I did top dress last night with a microbe tea and molasses. The good one had a hungry leaf or two.

I think I need a better quality bone meal too as its very cheap. A thought for the next run maybe.

[seymore_budz]

Thanks Grumpy Grower. It's good to hear other growers reading the plant the same as me so your reply is still valuable man.

I think I'm going to try adding something later to it. Previously mentioned in my reply to GMO.

No problem DIY.Rik. you won't kill any beanies by adding K to the mix. Stick around 0.2g per litre and you'll be back on track.

Just on a tangent, did you say you was adjusting the PH ?

No it's ok I'm an artist at tangents

I had already started to adjust the PH. I was giving them more like 6.5 to 6.8 before in early veg.

Later in veg I got the discoloured leaves so I hit the one plant with 5.8 and the healthy one to 6.2

Since then I flipped into flower and it has improved day by day. Although the one obviously is still hungry by the looks of it.

It's good for me though as i'm now learning more about reading the plant and what they need.

I will give it a little K later. The Raw stuff all seems pretty good stuff anyway? Canadian I think. My Kelp powder also comes from Canada too.

I will evaluate things later though. As I did top dress last night with a microbe tea and molasses. The good one had a hungry leaf or two.

I think I need a better quality bone meal too as its very cheap. A thought for the next run maybe.

Thanks for the information! I don't think it's the quality of the bone meal what is the issue or lack of microbes, I just think your mix is a little light on K in general. Lot's of people rate NPK industries so I would say the quality is good. It's just potassium sulphate as far as I'm aware? It's a great choice as it won't increase the PH like the ash top dress products. But going back to PH, you're running it a tad too low IMO. N, P, K, S, Ca, Mg & Mo will be less available at that level. Raise the PH and add some K and your plants will love you for it.

PS, if you going to add kelp, lower that 0.2g per ltr a smidge.

[Guest]

No problem DIY.Rik. you won't kill any beanies by adding K to the mix. Stick around 0.2g per litre and you'll be back on track.

Just on a tangent, did you say you was adjusting the PH ?

No it's ok I'm an artist at tangents

I had already started to adjust the PH. I was giving them more like 6.5 to 6.8 before in early veg.

Later in veg I got the discoloured leaves so I hit the one plant with 5.8 and the healthy one to 6.2

Since then I flipped into flower and it has improved day by day. Although the one obviously is still hungry by the looks of it.

It's good for me though as i'm now learning more about reading the plant and what they need.

I will give it a little K later. The Raw stuff all seems pretty good stuff anyway? Canadian I think. My Kelp powder also comes from Canada too.

I will evaluate things later though. As I did top dress last night with a microbe tea and molasses. The good one had a hungry leaf or two.

I think I need a better quality bone meal too as its very cheap. A thought for the next run maybe.

Thanks for the information! I don't think it's the quality of the bone meal what is the issue or lack of microbes, I just think your mix is a little light on K in general. Lot's of people rate NPK industries so I would say the quality is good. It's just potassium sulphate as far as I'm aware? It's a great choice as it won't increase the PH like the ash top dress products. But going back to PH, you're running it a tad too low IMO. N, P, K, S, Ca, Mg & Mo will be less available at that level. Raise the PH and add some K and your plants will love you for it.

PS, if you going to add kelp, lower that 0.2g per ltr a smidge.

Thanks Grumpy Grower. I will have a peep later when the lights come on. See what she looks like.

I'm standing back from changing my PH though. The medium seemed to be a bit higher than the 6.2 i'm putting in for some reason. Probably something buffering it.

I'll change one thing at a time and i'll know where I am which which change then.

Then again, i've just looked at the chart and at 6.2 I am slightly out of a good Phosphorous range so maybe i'll try lowering it in a few days after i've fixed the potassium issue.

[GMO]

Yeah i agree with GG here.

not poking holes but i think maybe your a little tangled up between salt fert and organic ammendments. so your plants making use of the salts available which will kill the microbe life needed to process the organics in the medium to be available to the plant. by providing salts the plants not feeding the medium so the microbes dont have anything to work for

thats my thinking on the situation buddy. adjust the PH has leaned it further toward the salts side aswell

[Grower88]

Keep up the good work mukka! All the best

[Guest]

Keep up the good work mukka! All the best

Thanks matey. Mucka haha. That brings me back to a few oldies I used to hang about with.

They're doing really well so far. I will update soon. They're half the way through flower theoretically.

[Guest]

Yeah i agree with GG here.

not poking holes but i think maybe your a little tangled up between salt fert and organic ammendments. so your plants making use of the salts available which will kill the microbe life needed to process the organics in the medium to be available to the plant. by providing salts the plants not feeding the medium so the microbes dont have anything to work for

thats my thinking on the situation buddy. adjust the PH has leaned it further toward the salts side aswell

Sorry I've left it a little long for replying and updating on here.
I remember looking PH and salt.

Is this referring to higher PH which would mean lower salt levels or referring to higher PH means healthier rhizosphere and biology?

I did put a probe measurement in (as I dont use run off due to potentially washing my amendments away) and it looked around 6. I have now given the soil 6.5 and plants look ok, maybe given a little growth spurt. The medium is more towards 6.7 to 7 now.
Would that be better?

[seymore_budz]

Yeah i agree with GG here.

not poking holes but i think maybe your a little tangled up between salt fert and organic ammendments. so your plants making use of the salts available which will kill the microbe life needed to process the organics in the medium to be available to the plant. by providing salts the plants not feeding the medium so the microbes dont have anything to work for

thats my thinking on the situation buddy. adjust the PH has leaned it further toward the salts side aswell

Sorry I've left it a little long for replying and updating on here.
I remember looking PH and salt.

Is this referring to higher PH which would mean lower salt levels or referring to higher PH means healthier rhizosphere and biology?

I did put a probe measurement in (as I dont use run off due to potentially washing my amendments away) and it looked around 6. I have now given the soil 6.5 and plants look ok, maybe given a little growth spurt. The medium is more towards 6.7 to 7 now.
Would that be better?

Both :), acidic media will piss off the beanies and the plants. How did you test the PH of the media if you don't mind me asking?