2 White Widow from Dutch Passion

[Guest]

Welcome to my indoor grow.

I have 2 WW from Dutch Passion, in 12L fabric pots. I am in an out house so I am slowly learning how to control the atmosphere in there with great comprehensive ability!

They are doing ok right now in comparison to my last two grow's I am happy with the progress, just past 2 weeks into flower. See in my last video:











These are the latest pictures.
You can see here one of the plants isn't quite as happy as the other. It almost looks like a little Potassium deficiency?

Anyway, just before I got to flowering cycle (I gradually lowered from 18/6 a little day by day) I tried giving the one plant that didn't look as healthy some lower PH water. 5.7 to 5.8 and the other 6.2

After a couple of days it started perking back up. I also went from 8L to 12L pots just before flower flip.

I was previously running on an Mars Eco 60 Which did the job but I thought I would be better looking for a better coverage over my canopy. So I am now running on a Mars TS 600. I have had to set the whole thing up on a budget, getting bit by bit as I go.

Now I can use the Mars 60 for germinating my next round of plants

0.6 x 0.6 x 1.8 M This is a cheap brand tent, Black Orchid, the only I could find to fit into the space at the time. Small space but it is hidden well in my out house. In a cupboard within the outhouse, I have it well insulated.

My extraction is the system air 4" Diameter purchased from Growell online.

I do not have any in take fan as its so small. The fan is well over powered for the tent, I remember doing a calculation when buying it. I am waiting to update to a auto adjust fan like the AC Infinity Cloudline T4. Keeping temps and humidity levels correct all the time is hard.

Veg:

All added as the label says unless stated

Charge added (Ecothrive product)
Life Cycle
Mega worm castings
Blood Meal (This tends to be half as much Bone Meal I add)
Bone Meal
Great White (on roots when re-potting)
Namasys Nematodes (Once in Veg and once in Flower if i can)

Flower:

The same as above apart from I will be using a kelp powder too.

I have just tonight top dressed in and watered in with a molasses and microbe tea. They started to look a little hungry.

I have also just today purchased a tube heater. Only 40 watts and it is IP44 rated which means it can take the odd splash of water.

This is connected to a temperature control unit which is set to turn the heater off over a certain temperature.

See photos:







The floor needs a bit of a clean I know lol. The heater is located around my air intake so any air rising up should get dispersed around the atmosphere and eliminate hot spots.


I use a very cheap PH pen of which I back up with either test strips to double check or check the pen against some test water.

I always try to achieve watering at around 6.2 which seems to work well. i have tried at the higher end of 6.8 but once it goes higher the plants seem to get stunted and slow down.


I use 2 Ram Air fans. One pointing down and over the light and one over the plants. This also seems to eliminate heat spots. Which brings me onto my laser temperature gun I use to check all over the tent and for leaf surface temp.


I have had problems trying to get the environment right for drying in my tent. I usually use the same one as I grow in. I have very limited space which is challenging.

I also place a few bowls of water to increase the humidity through Veg. I think the evaporation coming up over the canopy helps with the plants intake of water too.

I am not tending to bother with too much training. I try and keep it simple. I did top the shoots on these once to try keep them down and more bushy due to limited space, other that that I will strip any dead or new growth near the medium. Anything that can cause mould or disease.

from here its just watering plain water. 3 week microbe teas/molasses after top dressing and adding any faster acting amendments if and when I come into problems.

I'm hoping I can get you guys to help me with yield as I have struggled to get hem to pack on weight before. I thought dialling in the temps could help, hence the heater.

Happy Growing.

[Greenfingers]

one thing i have found is heat your out house as it realy helps with temps inside your tent, im out in awooden shed and it has helped me so far, i has the marshydro100ts, they seem a good bit of kit.

[Bulls]

Hello mate. Very nixe post and good grow. It takes some time to dial your groom down to good growing environment. I am not sure if you mentioned what medium are you growing in? If it's soil and you're messing with the ph, couls be the amswer to your problems. We will get you there mate, will end up hacing nice yield with good quality buds

[Guest]

I have considered this. I have ventilation around the main building, which my out take is pointed to. I am taking fresh air from outside, as I don't want to take any stale air from the building which also could be dusty/dirty air. If i'm working other tasks in the main room it would pull contamination through the intake.

So the idea was that the air from inside would come in and over the heater. It doesn't disperse masses of heat. Just enough to create a nice ambient temperature inside.

It would also be a lot of power to heat the whole room up. My tent is in a cupboard within the main room. It's fairly well insulated.

I think Keeno mentioned in last nights chat on you tube, to heat up the area outside instead. So that is what made me think of this solution.

It takes hardly any power consumption and I am only running on 13 amps for the whole thing. So i'm limited to what I can use anyway. Big heaters with lots of power consumption wouldn't work right now.

There was a chat somewhere else I heard someone doing something similar.

Plus I don't want to spend too much if I don't need to lol. Tight arse duck i'm afraid

But appreciate you saying. All input is good input. Thanks.

Yeah i'm so impressed with the price and the performance so far. Impressive light

[Guest]

Hello mate. Very nixe post and good grow. It takes some time to dial your groom down to good growing environment. I am not sure if you mentioned what medium are you growing in? If it's soil and you're messing with the ph, couls be the amswer to your problems. We will get you there mate, will end up hacing nice yield with good quality buds

Yeah i'm in coco. I'll see if i can go back and add it in.

I have tried soil and I got loads of bugs. The same soil infected some house plants so I looked it up online and seen people using coco with amendments and here I am

[Bulls]

Would you be able to take some runoff readings of the plant with problems?
How much and how often are you feeding?

[Guest]

I don't water for run off.

They were due a feeding and I use top dress, soil amendments. I have a way of giving quicker acting feeds if I get in real trouble. I'm not too worried about things yet.

The one plant looked worse than that at one point so it's improved already.

If I want to test the soil PH I would do it in a different way.

[GMO]

could you drop us the NPK for the blood and bone dude?

it looks like one plants a lil more fussy and it may be a little hot on the PK end of things

[seymore_budz]

Hey DIY.Rik,

That indeed looks like a K deficiency. It's hard to say without knowing what you've used exactly but my guess is you've added blood and bone that will give you N & P but you've not added anything to provide K. You could do with adding some hardwood ash. If you're UK, maybe try some palm tree ash? Anyway, once you've replied to GMO's question, he will get you on the right track. Good luck bud!

[Guest]

could you drop us the NPK for the blood and bone dude?

it looks like one plants a lil more fussy and it may be a little hot on the PK end of things

See this is why I'm here and this is where I usually stumble a bit. I thought the leaves looked a classic K def. But if I was relying on myself and the good old google, I would come up with several problems and solutions and end up it a right mess of what to do next. Flowering and putting on the weight is where I've struggled before.

I have the added values together and the K did look low so I ordered through some of that Raw 0-0-50 but I was reluctant to use it as it may kill some if microbes off in high amounts? So weighing things up.

My K value with everything I use is only 6. But I have added kelp powder to that calculation so that value will now be a little higher.

Is it worth adding a little of the Raw 0-0-50 later. Its soluble in water obviously with the high rate.

It's either that or I have some banana skins steeping. But I don't have the value for that