Dutch Passion Lemon Zkittles & Barneys Farm Blue Gelato 41

[seymore_budz]

Hey all,

Just a little update to let everyone know they're settling in nicely. I've had a slight bit of Mg def show so I've added some supplementary CaMg. I think it may have to do with the low humidity (~38%) but I can't do nothing about that until Sunday as everywhere close to me have sold our of humidifiers.

They're growing fast though and wow in three days the root growth is crazy! I've included some photos. Also included some stats on my room.

PH: 5.6
EC: 1.7
water temp: 21c
Air temp: 23c
Humidity: 38% low!

[Labs Dexter]

Looking good grumpy grower.. im glad to say im subbed up for this journey and good luck buddy

[Josh]

Looking good man! Think that light coming through will affect anything long term? Maybe algae build up?

Just curious

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[seymore_budz]

Looking good man! Think that light coming through will affect anything long term? Maybe algae build up?

Just curious

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Thanks Integrajosh. I thought exactly the same thing when I saw that photo. I mean the system has been designed to sit in bright light but considering red light is used for photosynthesis, I think it could well indeed cause algae problems. I'm running enzymes so hopefully that will keep the growth under control but I've also covered them just in case.

I'll probably rotate the nutrient solution tomorrow too just to be on the same side. I'm running it low (20ltr) atm anyway so no biggie to dump what's in there and start again.

Why ever didn't they just use green plastic?!

[Josh]

Looking good man! Think that light coming through will affect anything long term? Maybe algae build up?

Just curious

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Thanks Integrajosh. I thought exactly the same thing when I saw that photo. I mean the system has been designed to sit in bright light but considering red light is used for photosynthesis, I think it could well indeed cause algae problems. I'm running enzymes so hopefully that will keep the growth under control but I've also covered them just in case.

I'll probably rotate the nutrient solution tomorrow too just to be on the same side. I'm running it low (20ltr) atm anyway so no biggie to dump what's in there and start again.

Why ever didn't they just use green plastic?!

Just put reflective tape over them bro or black electrical tape will work

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[seymore_budz]

Looking good man! Think that light coming through will affect anything long term? Maybe algae build up?

Just curious

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Thanks Integrajosh. I thought exactly the same thing when I saw that photo. I mean the system has been designed to sit in bright light but considering red light is used for photosynthesis, I think it could well indeed cause algae problems. I'm running enzymes so hopefully that will keep the growth under control but I've also covered them just in case.

I'll probably rotate the nutrient solution tomorrow too just to be on the same side. I'm running it low (20ltr) atm anyway so no biggie to dump what's in there and start again.

Why ever didn't they just use green plastic?!

Just put reflective tape over them bro or black electrical tape will work

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I'll grab some blackout from my local growshop today I think. Tape works but the glue gets everywhere. I need to cover the net pots anyway.

[seymore_budz]

Hey all!

Just an end of week update on how this is all going. I'm extremely impressed with this system and nutrient range so far!

I started to see slight Mg def and maybe a small yellowing on the new growing tips at the start of this grow. I added some CaMg what helped but things still wasn't 100%. It's hard to explain, the plants were growing fast but the leaves were showing some signs of mottling on the large leaves etc. All very discrete but noticeable to myself.

When thinking back on what I'd done, it's going to sound stupid but while mixing up the first batch of nutrients, I put silicon in before anything else. When I started adding nutrients, I saw a precipitate cloud form but thought nothing of it. The PH was reading 10 on my meter after adding the feed too! But, I decided to crack on thinking it can't be that bad. Obviously it was :) I've since emptied and refilled the system with fresh nutrients and everything turned around almost instantly. So don't be like me and if you notice a precipitate cloud form while mixing up, dump it and start again.

Anyway, since things have warmed up a bit in the UK, I've dropped the EC to 1.5 to allow for increased levels of transpiration. PH is still at 5.4 for now but I will raise it slightly over the next week or so as things transition into the vigorous part of the growth period.

The light is now 18 inches away from the canopy and is set to 100%. Today I noticed the very first sign of heat stress but it's very minor. I zapped a few leaves with the lazer thermometer and they were averaging around 28C so on the higher end of where I like things but not crazy high like I've seen with the HPS. I've managed to get the humidity up with a humidifier but the poor thing is constantly on atm to maintain 50%. It's receiving RO water though so it should survive (hopefully).

Heat stress image:


The Ferro nutrient range is awesome! I'm well impressed with the stability of it despite the run to waste variant. PH levels are pretty much static and EC is rock solid. The water usage is around 2-3ltr a day atm but I don't know how much is taken up by the plants or evaporation. I'm adding Bio Roots, Bio Crop, Humine-ex, Enzyme plus, A+B and a small amount of potassium silicate as PH up.

Hopefully these stay on the same trajectory as they are on now. They look like they about to go crazy! Looking forward to start the training process :) I've pinched out the tops so far. That did slow em down a bit but they look like they about to bolt.

[Josh]

Hey all!

Just an end of week update on how this is all going. I'm extremely impressed with this system and nutrient range so far!

I started to see slight Mg def and maybe a small yellowing on the new growing tips at the start of this grow. I added some CaMg what helped but things still wasn't 100%. It's hard to explain, the plants were growing fast but the leaves were showing some signs of mottling on the large leaves etc. All very discrete but noticeable to myself.

When thinking back on what I'd done, it's going to sound stupid but while mixing up the first batch of nutrients, I put silicon in before anything else. When I started adding nutrients, I saw a precipitate cloud form but thought nothing of it. The PH was reading 10 on my meter after adding the feed too! But, I decided to crack on thinking it can't be that bad. Obviously it was :) I've since emptied and refilled the system with fresh nutrients and everything turned around almost instantly. So don't be like me and if you notice a precipitate cloud form while mixing up, dump it and start again.

Anyway, since things have warmed up a bit in the UK, I've dropped the EC to 1.5 to allow for increased levels of transpiration. PH is still at 5.4 for now but I will raise it slightly over the next week or so as things transition into the vigorous part of the growth period.

The light is now 18 inches away from the canopy and is set to 100%. Today I noticed the very first sign of heat stress but it's very minor. I zapped a few leaves with the lazer thermometer and they were averaging around 28C so on the higher end of where I like things but not crazy high like I've seen with the HPS. I've managed to get the humidity up with a humidifier but the poor thing is constantly on atm to maintain 50%. It's receiving RO water though so it should survive (hopefully).

Heat stress image:


The Ferro nutrient range is awesome! I'm well impressed with the stability of it despite the run to waste variant. PH levels are pretty much static and EC is rock solid. The water usage is around 2-3ltr a day atm but I don't know how much is taken up by the plants or evaporation. I'm adding Bio Roots, Bio Crop, Humine-ex, Enzyme plus, A+B and a small amount of potassium silicate as PH up.

Hopefully these stay on the same trajectory as they are on now. They look like they about to go crazy! Looking forward to start the training process :) I've pinched out the tops so far. That did slow em down a bit but they look like they about to bolt.

Hey man, I've heard of that cloud forming from silicon. But from what I've read it can take up to an hour to fully mix, then you should add nutrients.
I quit using it after stretch because it also makes my solution go up to 9-ish ph, then I have to use a shitload of ph down even after adding my nutrients. Imo prbly healthier for the plant not using so much ph down, but I could be wrong

Looking good though buddy

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[seymore_budz]

Thanks Integrajosh, I'm really enjoying the journey with aeroponics :) so much more to think about though.

The precipitate cloud is normally because potassium silicate is extremely alkaline (13PH) so it will skyrocket the PH and cause nutrients to solidify and become unavailable to the plant. The reason why some see the cloud form while adding the silicon is they probably because their nutrients have already been added and that sudden increase to 12+ PH takes out a load of nutrients. The real dumb thing on my part is I was well aware of this and decided to ignore it because I'm a lazy git. I suppose I thought they were young and it wouldn't affect them as much :)

What I should of done is add the silicon and mix, then PH the water and finally add nutrients and PH again. But I'm not going to use the potassium silicate as intended by the manufacturer anymore and just use it as a PH up. With this nutrient line, once everything is mixed, the PH is ~4ish so a few ml of silicon brings it up to 5.4 and once it's set, it hardly moves. I've only had to adjust down once so far and that was more because I added fresh water and it climbed a bit.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about adding PH down. Cannabis can take loads of P up no problems. I'd be very surprised if you managed to cause a lockout even by dumping a shit load in.

Hey all!

Just an end of week update on how this is all going. I'm extremely impressed with this system and nutrient range so far!

I started to see slight Mg def and maybe a small yellowing on the new growing tips at the start of this grow. I added some CaMg what helped but things still wasn't 100%. It's hard to explain, the plants were growing fast but the leaves were showing some signs of mottling on the large leaves etc. All very discrete but noticeable to myself.

When thinking back on what I'd done, it's going to sound stupid but while mixing up the first batch of nutrients, I put silicon in before anything else. When I started adding nutrients, I saw a precipitate cloud form but thought nothing of it. The PH was reading 10 on my meter after adding the feed too! But, I decided to crack on thinking it can't be that bad. Obviously it was :) I've since emptied and refilled the system with fresh nutrients and everything turned around almost instantly. So don't be like me and if you notice a precipitate cloud form while mixing up, dump it and start again.

Anyway, since things have warmed up a bit in the UK, I've dropped the EC to 1.5 to allow for increased levels of transpiration. PH is still at 5.4 for now but I will raise it slightly over the next week or so as things transition into the vigorous part of the growth period.

The light is now 18 inches away from the canopy and is set to 100%. Today I noticed the very first sign of heat stress but it's very minor. I zapped a few leaves with the lazer thermometer and they were averaging around 28C so on the higher end of where I like things but not crazy high like I've seen with the HPS. I've managed to get the humidity up with a humidifier but the poor thing is constantly on atm to maintain 50%. It's receiving RO water though so it should survive (hopefully).

Heat stress image:


The Ferro nutrient range is awesome! I'm well impressed with the stability of it despite the run to waste variant. PH levels are pretty much static and EC is rock solid. The water usage is around 2-3ltr a day atm but I don't know how much is taken up by the plants or evaporation. I'm adding Bio Roots, Bio Crop, Humine-ex, Enzyme plus, A+B and a small amount of potassium silicate as PH up.

Hopefully these stay on the same trajectory as they are on now. They look like they about to go crazy! Looking forward to start the training process :) I've pinched out the tops so far. That did slow em down a bit but they look like they about to bolt.

Hey man, I've heard of that cloud forming from silicon. But from what I've read it can take up to an hour to fully mix, then you should add nutrients.
I quit using it after stretch because it also makes my solution go up to 9-ish ph, then I have to use a shitload of ph down even after adding my nutrients. Imo prbly healthier for the plant not using so much ph down, but I could be wrong

Looking good though buddy

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[Josh]

Thanks Integrajosh, I'm really enjoying the journey with aeroponics :) so much more to think about though.

The precipitate cloud is normally because potassium silicate is extremely alkaline (13PH) so it will skyrocket the PH and cause nutrients to solidify and become unavailable to the plant. The reason why some see the cloud form while adding the silicon is they probably because their nutrients have already been added and that sudden increase to 12+ PH takes out a load of nutrients. The real dumb thing on my part is I was well aware of this and decided to ignore it because I'm a lazy git. I suppose I thought they were young and it wouldn't affect them as much :)

What I should of done is add the silicon and mix, then PH the water and finally add nutrients and PH again. But I'm not going to use the potassium silicate as intended by the manufacturer anymore and just use it as a PH up. With this nutrient line, once everything is mixed, the PH is ~4ish so a few ml of silicon brings it up to 5.4 and once it's set, it hardly moves. I've only had to adjust down once so far and that was more because I added fresh water and it climbed a bit.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about adding PH down. Cannabis can take loads of P up no problems. I'd be very surprised if you managed to cause a lockout even by dumping a shit load in.

Hey all!

Just an end of week update on how this is all going. I'm extremely impressed with this system and nutrient range so far!

I started to see slight Mg def and maybe a small yellowing on the new growing tips at the start of this grow. I added some CaMg what helped but things still wasn't 100%. It's hard to explain, the plants were growing fast but the leaves were showing some signs of mottling on the large leaves etc. All very discrete but noticeable to myself.

When thinking back on what I'd done, it's going to sound stupid but while mixing up the first batch of nutrients, I put silicon in before anything else. When I started adding nutrients, I saw a precipitate cloud form but thought nothing of it. The PH was reading 10 on my meter after adding the feed too! But, I decided to crack on thinking it can't be that bad. Obviously it was :) I've since emptied and refilled the system with fresh nutrients and everything turned around almost instantly. So don't be like me and if you notice a precipitate cloud form while mixing up, dump it and start again.

Anyway, since things have warmed up a bit in the UK, I've dropped the EC to 1.5 to allow for increased levels of transpiration. PH is still at 5.4 for now but I will raise it slightly over the next week or so as things transition into the vigorous part of the growth period.

The light is now 18 inches away from the canopy and is set to 100%. Today I noticed the very first sign of heat stress but it's very minor. I zapped a few leaves with the lazer thermometer and they were averaging around 28C so on the higher end of where I like things but not crazy high like I've seen with the HPS. I've managed to get the humidity up with a humidifier but the poor thing is constantly on atm to maintain 50%. It's receiving RO water though so it should survive (hopefully).

Heat stress image:


The Ferro nutrient range is awesome! I'm well impressed with the stability of it despite the run to waste variant. PH levels are pretty much static and EC is rock solid. The water usage is around 2-3ltr a day atm but I don't know how much is taken up by the plants or evaporation. I'm adding Bio Roots, Bio Crop, Humine-ex, Enzyme plus, A+B and a small amount of potassium silicate as PH up.

Hopefully these stay on the same trajectory as they are on now. They look like they about to go crazy! Looking forward to start the training process :) I've pinched out the tops so far. That did slow em down a bit but they look like they about to bolt.

Hey man, I've heard of that cloud forming from silicon. But from what I've read it can take up to an hour to fully mix, then you should add nutrients.
I quit using it after stretch because it also makes my solution go up to 9-ish ph, then I have to use a shitload of ph down even after adding my nutrients. Imo prbly healthier for the plant not using so much ph down, but I could be wrong

Looking good though buddy

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I agree about the ph down not causing lockouts, but it is also salt that takes up ppms that could be your base nutes instead
That's the way I look at it at least

For example, when using silicone, I'd have to add almost 10 ml of ph down to 9.5 gallons, which would add almost 50 ppm to the nute solution (.7 scale) Without the silicon, I only add 3-4 ml, so allows me to use a bit more base nutrients

Just a thought broski lmk what you think, I like the conversation

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