Wu's Autopot Adventures 3 - Spring Session - Orange Soul by Trichome Jungle Seeds

[2-Scoops]

.if anything starting to look better?

I recon so too yes.

[Wrh]

My tap water is the same as yours wu , I used to get issues later on in my grows as well but since I started using mainly rain water ( I use 4 to 1 tap to rain water which gives me a background ec of .1 ) the issues don't happen now .I only put tap water in to help keep the ph stable if I use just rain water it's difficult to keep the ph in range it fluctuates too much . I'm with you they look better but I didn't think they looked bad before I think they are just growing really quickly your doing a great job mate

[wutang]

Good morning Wu,

Same sort if water as me with that ec, I bet you go through some kettles and water pumps lol.

The correct answer with the chlorine I'd let the water sit for a day as you know, the wrong answer and whete I think most of us end up... I haven't done that fir years, straight out of tap and into res for me, that's up to you.

I don't think it's the Chlorine. What I think is happening is your plants hormones are changing at flip and they are requiring more of x or y at flip, this will be mainly down to amount of light being used. I want to stress that you are not using too much light, it's just the plants wanting more of a certain nutrient under that specific light when they are transitioning. As you say, this keeps happening. I'll post a video I done a while back that explains some of what I'm trying to say.

I would NOT add calmag to this current feed regime wu. Try the Epsom salts foliar feed. The Epsom salts while cal mag based, acts as a softener, allowing your plants to make use of some of the elements in your current feed a little easier. There are other products that will do this thst are sold as specific to the hobby. RAW Amino and RAW Yukka extract do similar at a much higher cost.

Look at Epsom salts not as a boost or additive, but more a softening or helping hand to make use of what's already there. And there's more than enough there at 4ml per litre. I've never gone close to that number and you've seem some of my big long vegged scrogs, all under high power led.

If we look at canna a and b, or any base nutrients, they have set amounts of certain nutrients/elements. Different lights, LED, CMH, HPS, all produce different amounts of usable light, different spectrums, and the plants will react/require different feeds accordingly. This is what I think is behind a lot of issues under LED growing. I'm not saying you have cal or mag def. I'm saying the balance is likely out as the plants are demanding more of certain things, specifically at times like flowering. Using certain products or aids can negate some of this. Epsom salts is a great one.

Here the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80Gffu9KH0

It's a good reference point as there are 3 different LED lights, all different power, all making the plants want different things. In a single groom with 1 light you only have 1 reference point, which normally leads growers to just up feed, instead of look at other fixes or helping hands like softening products.

Yeah for sure..blooming limescale everywhere around the taps lol.

Maybe that's another thing. I've been outta tap into res. Maybe it's this is where I'm going wrong.

I think I underfed from.the start and have done that for a few grows. That maybe the root cause too..no pun intended haha.

I'm not going to add any calmag..as I'm trying to learn by each grow by changing factor by factor so I know what causes it.

Also chlorine thing.. in the autopot tank I'd like to think some of it starts evaporating but saying that I topped up 10l.and in two days the tank is empty lol.

I'm growing under 600w HPS dual spectrum.

Would it be safe to use Epsom salts right now? I'm in week 2 since flip etc.

Thanks again bro.

[wutang]

.if anything starting to look better?

I recon so too yes.

I thought so too..the. I went back and looked at previous pictures and they started looking the same. Maybe it's my hope in thinking a boost in nutrients has saved my bacon.

Hope you're good mukka

[wutang]

My tap water is the same as yours wu , I used to get issues later on in my grows as well but since I started using mainly rain water ( I use 4 to 1 tap to rain water which gives me a background ec of .1 ) the issues don't happen now .I only put tap water in to help keep the ph stable if I use just rain water it's difficult to keep the ph in range it fluctuates too much . I'm with you they look better but I didn't think they looked bad before I think they are just growing really quickly your doing a great job mate

Thanks mukka. Appreciate the input. Next time I need to feed better from.the start. As I undefed during the seedling early veg stage.

[Keeno]

Good morning Wu,

Same sort if water as me with that ec, I bet you go through some kettles and water pumps lol.

The correct answer with the chlorine I'd let the water sit for a day as you know, the wrong answer and whete I think most of us end up... I haven't done that fir years, straight out of tap and into res for me, that's up to you.

I don't think it's the Chlorine. What I think is happening is your plants hormones are changing at flip and they are requiring more of x or y at flip, this will be mainly down to amount of light being used. I want to stress that you are not using too much light, it's just the plants wanting more of a certain nutrient under that specific light when they are transitioning. As you say, this keeps happening. I'll post a video I done a while back that explains some of what I'm trying to say.

I would NOT add calmag to this current feed regime wu. Try the Epsom salts foliar feed. The Epsom salts while cal mag based, acts as a softener, allowing your plants to make use of some of the elements in your current feed a little easier. There are other products that will do this thst are sold as specific to the hobby. RAW Amino and RAW Yukka extract do similar at a much higher cost.

Look at Epsom salts not as a boost or additive, but more a softening or helping hand to make use of what's already there. And there's more than enough there at 4ml per litre. I've never gone close to that number and you've seem some of my big long vegged scrogs, all under high power led.

If we look at canna a and b, or any base nutrients, they have set amounts of certain nutrients/elements. Different lights, LED, CMH, HPS, all produce different amounts of usable light, different spectrums, and the plants will react/require different feeds accordingly. This is what I think is behind a lot of issues under LED growing. I'm not saying you have cal or mag def. I'm saying the balance is likely out as the plants are demanding more of certain things, specifically at times like flowering. Using certain products or aids can negate some of this. Epsom salts is a great one.

Here the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80Gffu9KH0

It's a good reference point as there are 3 different LED lights, all different power, all making the plants want different things. In a single groom with 1 light you only have 1 reference point, which normally leads growers to just up feed, instead of look at other fixes or helping hands like softening products.

Yeah for sure..blooming limescale everywhere around the taps lol.

Maybe that's another thing. I've been outta tap into res. Maybe it's this is where I'm going wrong.

I think I underfed from.the start and have done that for a few grows. That maybe the root cause too..no pun intended haha.

I'm not going to add any calmag..as I'm trying to learn by each grow by changing factor by factor so I know what causes it.

Also chlorine thing.. in the autopot tank I'd like to think some of it starts evaporating but saying that I topped up 10l.and in two days the tank is empty lol.

I'm growing under 600w HPS dual spectrum.

Would it be safe to use Epsom salts right now? I'm in week 2 since flip etc.

Thanks again bro.

Are they in true flower? They don't look to have crowned. If so yes you can use Epsom, I do every grow at day 7 to further load them.

4ml per litre under hps is crazy high mate. I'm gonna go back through your diaries ss if this is happening every grow at flip with different strains, and this sort of feeding is needed, somethings a miss.

All this being said they are not in trouble and will likely pull round. It's the fact they are not happy at a crucial point and it will be effecting them in the long run.

What testing kit have you got as in pens?

Are you able to catch some run off to test that when watering?

I'm intrigued now as this doesn't make any sense to be happening over and over.

[wutang]

Good morning Wu,

Same sort if water as me with that ec, I bet you go through some kettles and water pumps lol.

The correct answer with the chlorine I'd let the water sit for a day as you know, the wrong answer and whete I think most of us end up... I haven't done that fir years, straight out of tap and into res for me, that's up to you.

I don't think it's the Chlorine. What I think is happening is your plants hormones are changing at flip and they are requiring more of x or y at flip, this will be mainly down to amount of light being used. I want to stress that you are not using too much light, it's just the plants wanting more of a certain nutrient under that specific light when they are transitioning. As you say, this keeps happening. I'll post a video I done a while back that explains some of what I'm trying to say.

I would NOT add calmag to this current feed regime wu. Try the Epsom salts foliar feed. The Epsom salts while cal mag based, acts as a softener, allowing your plants to make use of some of the elements in your current feed a little easier. There are other products that will do this thst are sold as specific to the hobby. RAW Amino and RAW Yukka extract do similar at a much higher cost.

Look at Epsom salts not as a boost or additive, but more a softening or helping hand to make use of what's already there. And there's more than enough there at 4ml per litre. I've never gone close to that number and you've seem some of my big long vegged scrogs, all under high power led.

If we look at canna a and b, or any base nutrients, they have set amounts of certain nutrients/elements. Different lights, LED, CMH, HPS, all produce different amounts of usable light, different spectrums, and the plants will react/require different feeds accordingly. This is what I think is behind a lot of issues under LED growing. I'm not saying you have cal or mag def. I'm saying the balance is likely out as the plants are demanding more of certain things, specifically at times like flowering. Using certain products or aids can negate some of this. Epsom salts is a great one.

Here the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80Gffu9KH0

It's a good reference point as there are 3 different LED lights, all different power, all making the plants want different things. In a single groom with 1 light you only have 1 reference point, which normally leads growers to just up feed, instead of look at other fixes or helping hands like softening products.

Yeah for sure..blooming limescale everywhere around the taps lol.

Maybe that's another thing. I've been outta tap into res. Maybe it's this is where I'm going wrong.

I think I underfed from.the start and have done that for a few grows. That maybe the root cause too..no pun intended haha.

I'm not going to add any calmag..as I'm trying to learn by each grow by changing factor by factor so I know what causes it.

Also chlorine thing.. in the autopot tank I'd like to think some of it starts evaporating but saying that I topped up 10l.and in two days the tank is empty lol.

I'm growing under 600w HPS dual spectrum.

Would it be safe to use Epsom salts right now? I'm in week 2 since flip etc.

Thanks again bro.

Are they in true flower? They don't look to have crowned. If so yes you can use Epsom, I do every grow at day 7 to further load them.

4ml per litre under hps is crazy high mate. I'm gonna go back through your diaries ss if this is happening every grow at flip with different strains, and this sort of feeding is needed, somethings a miss.

All this being said they are not in trouble and will likely pull round. It's the fact they are not happy at a crucial point and it will be effecting them in the long run.

What testing kit have you got as in pens?

Are you able to catch some run off to test that when watering?

I'm intrigued now as this doesn't make any sense to be happening over and over.

Nar bro. Not in full flower yet. Not seen anything to indicate it yet.

I've got essentials ph pen. And a cheapo ppm meter off amazon. When my essentials pen was working..it was always reporting 0.6ec at tap water and this pen reports 300ppm which is 0.6ec according to charts so I feel they are accurate. I'll recalibrate the ph pen but always do that once every grow and its never massively off, sometimes 0.1ph or something.

I'm in autopots bro so it's a bit of a pain to get run off..plus these are heffers lol.

Checked thar rank today and still a fair bit in there.

Once I have this problem solved...I'll be golden. Just can't put my finger on it. That being said, my sherbet auto under these conditions yielded me 9oz dried. So.its strange how it was impacting other plants during that run but some.others lapped up the extra nutes back then.

[Keeno]

No true flower then I'd hit them with Epsom. Make it part of your routine next grow. You'll see the difference.

They should be showing true flower though. And this is what I've been saying. It will hurt you over many grows and what you are getting. Yes you'll have some do well, but you want them all doing well.

Essential pens are good. Maybe @Cave Hill Cole has some input. He's in auto pots, there may be something with the bottom feeding I'm not thinking of as I was in wilmas.

[wutang]

No true flower then I'd hit them with Epsom. Make it part of your routine next grow. You'll see the difference.

They should be showing true flower though. And this is what I've been saying. It will hurt you over many grows and what you are getting. Yes you'll have some do well, but you want them all doing well.

Essential pens are good. Maybe @Cave Hill Cole has some input. He's in auto pots, there may be something with the bottom feeding I'm not thinking of as I was in wilmas.

Really fair point. My herb has never been good as dam herbs..like not really prominent terpene smells etc but I know that could be down to many factors...but thr obvious one is this particular issue all the time. Next time (if I don't find out what it is now) I'll feed slightly higher at seedling stage and through veg...I have also made that same mistake previously by feeding too low..so that's deffo another corrective action on the next run. I won't give up till I get some.perfecr dank.

Cheers.
#committed haha

[Keeno]

No true flower then I'd hit them with Epsom. Make it part of your routine next grow. You'll see the difference.

They should be showing true flower though. And this is what I've been saying. It will hurt you over many grows and what you are getting. Yes you'll have some do well, but you want them all doing well.

Essential pens are good. Maybe @Cave Hill Cole has some input. He's in auto pots, there may be something with the bottom feeding I'm not thinking of as I was in wilmas.

Really fair point. My herb has never been good as dam herbs..like not really prominent terpene smells etc but I know that could be down to many factors...but thr obvious one is this particular issue all the time. Next time (if I don't find out what it is now) I'll feed slightly higher at seedling stage and through veg...I have also made that same mistake previously by feeding too low..so that's deffo another corrective action on the next run. I won't give up till I get some.perfecr dank.

Cheers.
#committed haha

This has been happening since you started?