Whitefire Gelato

[Keeno]

A few better pics, theres some orangeing pistils about that couldnt be seen in my itger pics that didnt come out too well. About to go drop the pk13/14 and give some buddy now











Got a bit of foxtailing again on a few of the buds, had alot of it on the braindamage i did under this light aswel. Do you guys reckon this is genetic or something else? The temps never go below 19 or above 27 and humidity is always between 60% and 70% can't do much about that one though as that seems to be what i get for humidity. Got some deficiencies starting to show a aswel i think. Would you all say I've fed a bit too high and thats caused the foxtailing and smaller buds? It's f ing stinking well though mind and praying too which is something i don't usually manage to achieve

Something I've noticed in a lot of newer strains, is they are fussy eaters. I noticed this with Concious Genetics and I have noticed on a few of the Griwers Choice over the years, I had it on the Tropical Soul from Trichome Jungle. All good breeders with good genetics, thry are just a tad fassier with feed (or the strains i did were). All iccasions I had other strajns on the same feed that wee fine. Over feeding was easily done with them grows and they didn't produce much once they had been over fed or "feed stressed".

I say this as the above pictures are looking a tad waxy, dark, even though they are under a led light.

[Nom]

I did hit 3ml/L A&B for about a week or so actually, so could well be the cause. I tend to push as much feed as possible looking back through my diaries, it's a common thing I seem to do. Every days a school day. More air, less food. Makes sense since my best grow ever I was practically guided through feeding by GMO and Seymour and fed lighter, had the 6 inch extraction going hell for leather too

[Mafooo]

Hey Nom just thought I would share my 2 cents here with an anecdote from my current grow.

I too hit one heavy feed around 1500 ppm or 1.5 EC in soil and ever since then the foxtailing started on my buds. So in my case it was most likely overfeeding and in fact i saw an explosion of new pistils after I did a flush. Only thing is that dash of new flowers is eating through the fan leaves and I dont think I can replenish the spent leaves with more feed.

[2-Scoops]

Maybe its nothing to do with lighting well prolly isn't imho and more genetics, possibly f1 beans and those are a lotto what typo pheno you get.

[Keeno]

I did hit 3ml/L A&B for about a week or so actually, so could well be the cause. I tend to push as much feed as possible looking back through my diaries, it's a common thing I seem to do. Every days a school day. More air, less food. Makes sense since my best grow ever I was practically guided through feeding by GMO and Seymour and fed lighter, had the 6 inch extraction going hell for leather too

I think we have found the problem IMO nom. Ill try find some examples in my old grows but I tend to start to ignore plants if they are misbehaving. Now ive looked at the pictures in here and im looking for that issue im seeing it.

The waxy leaves here:



Curling of leaves here, not in the classic claw/n tox, the way they sttart to curl to the side.



3ml a and b is moooohasive mate, Ive never been close to it. The more light I force on my plants using LED the higher the feed I need, Im usin mad amounts of light up there and im topping out at 1.8ml per liter. The fact you hit them and lowered it, no a constant feed means you may not get the typical signs of burn, but if you look real close at these pictures as I have you can see the very tips.

Ill have a look now and see if I can find any of the strains I've seen the exact pattern on. Others have said its x, or x amount of light, x environment, but I knew x, x and x was in range or ok.

[Keeno]

I did hit 3ml/L A&B for about a week or so actually, so could well be the cause. I tend to push as much feed as possible looking back through my diaries, it's a common thing I seem to do. Every days a school day. More air, less food. Makes sense since my best grow ever I was practically guided through feeding by GMO and Seymour and fed lighter, had the 6 inch extraction going hell for leather too

I think we have found the problem IMO nom. Ill try find some examples in my old grows but I tend to start to ignore plants if they are misbehaving. Now ive looked at the pictures in here and im looking for that issue im seeing it.

The waxy leaves here:



Curling of leaves here, not in the classic claw/n tox, the way they sttart to curl to the side.



3ml a and b is moooohasive mate, Ive never been close to it. The more light I force on my plants using LED the higher the feed I need, Im usin mad amounts of light up there and im topping out at 1.8ml per liter. The fact you hit them and lowered it, no a constant feed means you may not get the typical signs of burn, but if you look real close at these pictures as I have you can see the very tips.

Ill have a look now and see if I can find any of the strains I've seen the exact pattern on. Others have said its x, or x amount of light, x environment, but I knew x, x and x was in range or ok.

Here one of them, Meringue was the strain, it was not happy on the feed the others were on, you can see the obvious waxy look but look at the leabes bending sideways, the underdeveloped bud and small size, orange hairs early.





viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4161&hilit=dutch&start=60 - theres the diary of that one. Other strains done fine, multistrain grow of 4.

I've seen the exact issue on 3 other strains over the years, all would fall into the more modern genetics bracket. Likely contain cake/cookies genetics now I'm thinking about it, both can be fussy feeders. All of the issues can be explained by other things, but the small underdeveloped flowers, orange hairs, leaf pattern/shape, colour and the lineage of the strains, all are now forming a pattern for me.

[Nom]

Thanks all, a lesson learned on this one. Keep it light and let them ask for it. Most likely what went wrong with my braindamage aswel i think. Slowly slowly catchy monkey

[Keeno]

Thanks all, a lesson learned on this one. Keep it light and let them ask for it. Most likely what went wrong with my braindamage aswel i think. Slowly slowly catchy monkey

I've rarely had a strain need more than 1.5ml in flower, normally 1.2ml.

This doesn't mean the strain is doomed. That meringue i posted above was the strain my step mum always asks about. It was a potent and deep flavored plant, even if I over-cooked it with food.

[Nom]

Where am I, day 52 since flip I think

[Nom]

Day 57

On 1ml A&B, 1ml buddy.
I'm thinking another week and then start flushing? What you all reckon?