Almost organic Nemesis in flower

[Bulls]

Stunning plants Hobbit.
What light cycle are they on usually?

[Hobbit]

Stunning plants Hobbit.
What light cycle are they on usually?

Cheers Bulls, they were 12/12 for the first week, then over a week upped to 13.5/10.5. When i added another plant straight into that cycle It seemed to be slow to flower so i backed it back to 13/11. Im fairly sure that the longer light cycle helped with stretch.

[Smokey]

Hi Hobbit apologies i havent been in for a while buy wow they look great even with confusion of weeks and pk cycles they still look epic for it for sure well in pal

Mon the countdown to chop

Smokes

[Hobbit]

Cheers Smokey, not looking too shabby over your way either mate.

[Hobbit]

CHOP CHOP

So I ripped these last weekend, and now for my favourite part, the contemplation. The numbers come in at nearly 17oz, or 0.78 gr/watt. Its not a great result for 5 plants.They deffinately could have gone at least a week longer if not 2, but I had to get em out as my next flowering is gunna be a nightmare with temps and humidity and id seen enough to answer my questions. Ive had the same or better results on the same strain grown outdoors, with cold, mites, worse structure and stretch control, inferior overall health and pulled earlier due to bud rot. Its worth mentioning here that the last 6 of these all got bud rot at very low humidity outdoors due to rain and denser buds. So I had 2 main missions for this grow, firstly how does PK used on a similar regime to coco growers work in soil. The results weren't totally unexpected as I have poured hydroponic nutrient runoff on plants in my garden before and Its been obvious that they are much stronger than any organic nutrients ive used.This and the fact that soil has a much better cec than coco made the out come fairly predictable. Most of these plants went to flower like a bull at a gate, forming up very nicely. As I increased the PK week by week they started looking less and less vigorous. Once I hit 1ml/ltr over half the plants started getting very tiny yellow spots, mostly on the margins. It was a cal deff even though they hav been fed cal/mag regularly. The Dutch Delight I have was the worst effected so its consistent through more than one strain. So whats the problem here? Well I started looking at the most obvious cause, mineral relationships. Very hard to find specific detailed info on trials done to investigate the relationship between P, K, Cal and Mag. So we most of us know that cal and mag share a very strong relationship with each other and also N. Which is why plants over fed N generally result in calmag lockout. While on the subject of N, id like to mention the importance of N on K uptake. K is totally reliant on N molecules for up take by plants. K has two pathways but both involve N, which is why I never understood peoples reluctance to give veg nutes to an obviously N hungry flowering plant. By having a hungry flowering plant you reduce your K uptake. Any way thats digressing a little. So as expected P shares a very strong relationship with cal and mag. Magnesium is like a facilitator or transporter of most nutrients it generally acts as it does in the human body to transport nutrients through the blood, keeping electrolytes in check etc. Mag shares a strong molecular bond with P. Phosphorous shares a strong molecular bond with cal and is vital for calcium uptake. So like I said very hard to find exact field trials on the subject but I think this is enough info to conclude that too much PK had a negative overall effect on the plants and showed itself in the form of calmag lockout. So im happy with how this soil performed in most regards but next run Im going to add clay by 10% volume to increase my cec values, and if I do use pk again it wont be more than once every 3 watering s.

The second thing I was looking at here was light height. I had a conversation last year with a grower I have the deepest respect for, about light height in regards to terpene production. Many of you know Blue and the calibre of grower he is. So terpines are what give us the scents and tastes of our weed, just as do hops ( also from the cannibaceae family) do in our favourite ales. Terpenes also play a role in plant protection from heat, light, and other negative factors such as pest and disease. Terpenes main role is to protect the plant from UV, so ive often wondered if getting more Uv in the room would be beneficial for increased scent and taste. So Blue and I were noting how professional grow setups always had their lights set quite high, unlike what we do in our grooms getting them down as low as possible. The theory was that we could get better taste and scents with lights set higher as light and heat both can impact on terpene deterioration. Which is why we dont store our finished product in a bright hot place. So this grow my light never went lower than 2 feet. I did notice at about week 5 of flower that lower bud sites were under performing and I did remove about 1/3 of my shade leaves to open up penetration. Ive never been a fan of defol for very obvious reasons, but this did have an immediate impact on my bud growth. At this point I was contemplating lowering my light but opted to see the experiment through to the end. TBF My ambient temps had risen here anyway and I wouldn't have got it down too much lower without increasing my temps out of my control range for future experiments. Thinking about it now, running hotter and brighter should theoretically increase terpene production and probably cancel out the deterioration factor. I have to wonder also using relatively low lighting such as 600hps which are very low UV if any at all, when in comparison with natural sunlight and its Uv and intensity really can do that much terpene damage.

So In conclusion, the PK at the rates I used it had an overall negative effect on plant vigour and a calcium lockout, but the real robber of my yield would be light height. As this was a controlled grow and I have cuts of my best 2 phenos,recorded their individual yields but to really complete the story on PK V my own flowering nutrient I will grow my next lot with no PK, a lower light height and then the grow after I will run the lower light height with PK but at reduced rates and see how they compare. I will be doing this around March next year. So I got another 2 grows yet to get a complete answer to my question.

One more thing to mention is that I always use GWS and roots excellrator by house and garden both products i believe to be very good. This grow i used GWS only as expected my root systems underperformed. I have also use these two products in vegging in coco before and this time around in coco Im using only GWS and the roots are underperforming here as well. at some stage I will be reintroducing the roots excellurator as I think it is a worthy prodct to have.

That brings this diary to a close really, I will post a few more pics and a smoke report and thanks to all who followed along and I hope you got something out of this grow.



Here is the lockout I mentioned.














































I will get a few more up of the final product in jars in a few days.




Strain and seedbank:

Nemesis by Seeds Man

Description
Nemesis is a 50/50 cannabis hybrid strain that is half North Indian sativa and half Nepalese indica. Nemesis is highly adaptable to both indoor and outdoor cultivation and is a pretty fast finisher with some plants being ready at just 7 weeks; others may take a week or two longer Vigorous in growth pattern and very hardy of constitution its highly potent buds deliver a really soaring sativa high.

Medium: Soil

Grow Equipment, 600 HPS

Nutes/Feed: Fish hydrolisate, calmag,PK various organic amendments for micro nutrients

Weeks of veg: 10

Weeks of flower: 11 from flip

Colour of thrichs at time of harvest: cloudy

Dry Yield: 16.75 oz



Bud Density : 6

Bud Appearance Comments: Buds lack density, but are very sticky.


Smell in flower: 7

Smell after curing : 8



Taste: Very earthy

The High : Nemesis high never fails to please. Very energetic creative high with just enough head high to get completely lost in thought for short periods of time.



Good comments: Easy strain to grow which takes most punishment you can throw at it. Makes an excellent plant for trialling new theories.


Bad Comments: This strain does have the ability to hermi fairly easily. Ive got a few seeds from most of them ive grown without noticing anything though. I did have one hermi hard in the past from some very harsh treatment, but I just pulled the balls of for a week and she went right on growing and stopped herming.

[Wizard]

very informative write up hobbit and thoes buds look nice and tasty

[The Aspie Toker]

I bet that will be a smooth smoke. Nice colours too.

[Nanook]

Jesus hobbit! Get the strain report into strain reports too mate :)
Shame you don't think you did well but tbh I'd say that was a decent result tbh.

[ohlordyeah_420]

I think that's a good result. Everytime you post hobbit I feel like I learn something. Thanks matey.

[Bulls]

One if the most well ended diaries I've ever seen. Fair play buddy. Love your observations, tests and comparison. Thank you very much for all the information. Learning something new every time.