Clicks latest grow in... COCO! Plus a new room build, yeo!

[Keeno]

Wassup Clicks. They look good considering the issues. I look forward to seeing tye peat pics if you manage to take some.

[Clicks]

So, it’s been about a month since my last proper update.. apologies! Life has been busy, I’m getting married shortly and have had a lot on my plate.

I’ve also got a greenhouse for £30 off gumtree and started some strawberries, a few hot pepper varieties, some sweet peppers and 2 tomato varieties. Going to use my old autopot system for the plants I want to yield more I.e. sweet peppers, tomatoes and everyday hotness chillis!

Things have been plodding along nicely, albeit had a couple of issues.

I found a shit load of pests, which I initially thought were fungus gnats and I absolutely bricked it - luckily they turned out to be springtails causing no harm so I’m just letting them be.

The other issue was the Ethos - Big Detroit Energy plant. So, because I am using an Autopot Easy2Grow system… whatever one plant gets feed wise, the rest get. What’s happened is the ethos strain has needed no where near as many nutrients as the rest of the 3x trichome jungle Raspberry Soul. I’ve been pushing the feed to keep the 3 girls happy until the first one started to show signs of nute burn (getting their nails done as I like to call it) - but the EC in the medium in that one specific plant was building… and building… and building… and it’s just eventually had enough and has been burnt to shreds. I’m not too bothered, as that’s one plant out of 4 and the other 3 are ABSOLUTELY THRIVING!!!!

It was a really nice plant, nice structure and terps to it - but if it can’t take anywhere near the feed as my others; I won’t be rubbing it again even though I have a few clones rooted out of it.


Anyways… the other 3 trichome jungle Tester ‘R’ raspberry soul seeds are doing amazing. End of week 5 yesterday and I have 3 very distinct phenotypes and one in particular which is tickling me in a way no other plant has before

Safe to say, as long as it smokes as good as it’s grown and smells - it’ll definitely be a keeper.

I think I’ll just dump some pictures here to show you how things have been going!




















Here are some more recent pics from the last couple of weeks























I’ve fixed the issue on the ‘sick’ plant but the fan leaves will just be permanently f&@ked!





I’ve also got cloning dialled I’m fairly well, I was even able to get “monster cropped” clones (taken in week 4 of flower) to root within 8 days.

Here are some pics of my little veg tent












Also here are some pics of my greenhouse.. and little pup who loves trying to drink water from the hose when I’m watering..

[biosynthetic]

Nice few pics there

[Guest]

My main room has an air in and filter out. I dropped them down recently as it didn't need it and forgot, had to tweak things yesterday as it got humid.
Looks an amazing build.
I need to invest in an inkbird for the main room. To auto control things.

This is looking very tidy and well looked after though.

Nice one..

[Guest]

Love the chilli and strawberries too yum

[stoner4200000]

Hi, mate, Firstly good find on the greenhouse

I'm also a lover of the auto pot system myself. They are so versatile and also have a few different use cases in the way you can use the valve. Capillary matting etc. but there are indeed some learning curves to it. Those who know me from years ago will know I have grown some absolute monsters in them.

What it seems to me is you experiencing a buffer problem and not a deficiency this is almost always the case when it comes to coco. I prefer 50/50 coco perlite for auto-pots myself but grown monsters in pure as well. 70/30 works great also.

If you flushing due to super high ec which you shouldn't do in bottom fed systems as it's better to feed a lower EC throughout rather than have to flush the accumulated salts at a later date. But if you need to flush never use just plan water as it's better to use Cal mag or just use your normal feed and flush until its ec runoff is where you want it otherwise You risk losing your buffer. Then you will need to re-buff it again by soaking in 1.2ec calmag or up your calmag ec when feeding approx 0.6EC along with your a and b to make it up to no more than 1.4. and it will passively buff it but it will take a bit longer for the sites to be saturated with ca to exchange with the k.

My only other advice is to Skip all supplements ie pk boosters and anything organic. Although the new pipes are wider so will be ok with small amounts of fulvic acid which is in a few hydro feeds. But avoid humic acid and other organic supplements. They will just make your tank ph drift due to bacteria and build up in the pipes will happen and again even if your tank ph is correct the water in the feed pipes may not. This is more true with longer runs of autopots tho. do clean your tank now and then anyway mate as it will help in the long run over a grow ohhh and in regards to runoff ph when you were checking don't worry about it. Coco can buffer ph quite well so as long as your tank ph is good your plants should be. Apologies for the long post brother I actually deleted quite alot. Anyways.... Hope this helps man

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[seymore_budz]

Only your third grow! Wow all looks very professional indeed from the choice of equipment right to the style of growing.

@stoner4200000 is spot on with his advice IMO. I wouldn't grow with coco using a bottom fed system full stop due to the issues with buffering etc. A 50/50 mix of coco/perlite would help but I would drop the coco altogether and go with either a 50/50 peat/perlite or maybe mapito. Mapito has a small amount of coco but the bulk is rockwool.

Im using the TNC products too within my NFT system and so far they're proving to be an excellent addition to my regime! My plants are loving it you do have to watch for sediment build up and PH fluctuations when fungi and bacteria but if anything the TNC products actually balance my PH. It doesn't seem to move off 6.2PH

Awesome build Nice work indeed.

[Vador]

Coming along nicely over here.
Nice work buddy

[Clicks]

Nice few pics there

Thank you sir!!

My main room has an air in and filter out. I dropped them down recently as it didn't need it and forgot, had to tweak things yesterday as it got humid.
Looks an amazing build.
I need to invest in an inkbird for the main room. To auto control things.

This is looking very tidy and well looked after though.

Nice one..

There’s some things you just don’t think of on the outset, isn’t there?! Lol

Yours sounds pretty dialled in now, and at least you have the capabilities of tweaking things!

I’ve just got an ONA block to stick in the vent that’s extracting into my garage, the veg tent was giving off some smell (no carbon filter).

Inkbirds are great, I just decided to over-spend on a Trolmaster

Love the chilli and strawberries too yum

I can confirm, the strawberries are absolutely DELICIOUS! Had a few ripe ones…

Only your third grow! Wow all looks very professional indeed from the choice of equipment right to the style of growing.

[mention]stoner4200000[/mention] is spot on with his advice IMO. I wouldn't grow with coco using a bottom fed system full stop due to the issues with buffering etc. A 50/50 mix of coco/perlite would help but I would drop the coco altogether and go with either a 50/50 peat/perlite or maybe mapito. Mapito has a small amount of coco but the bulk is rockwool.

Im using the TNC products too within my NFT system and so far they're proving to be an excellent addition to my regime! My plants are loving it you do have to watch for sediment build up and PH fluctuations when fungi and bacteria but if anything the TNC products actually balance my PH. It doesn't seem to move off 6.2PH

Awesome build Nice work indeed.

Yep! Only my 3rd grow but it feels like I’ve been doing it a lot longer lol it’s absolutely consumed my life!!!

Thanks for the kind words

I still feel that coco was a better choice for my setup this time round, rather than soil. I felt like I had a lot more control over things and everything generally went smoother.

I’ve still got quite a lot of coco left so I’ll still be going down that route for the next couple of runs anyways and familiarise myself with it a bit more and re-grow the same phenos to try and dial things in a bit more.

I haven’t been using TNC products in my reservoir because I thought it would clog the lines etc up, just top feeding BactorrS13 mane using the MyCorrMAX when re-potting etc, works absolute wonders!

I know what you mean about pH fluctuations. That’s the main bloody thing I’ve had to do, just pH the res every day!

Coming along nicely over here.
Nice work buddy

Cheers dude! Chop day today…

[Clicks]

Hi, mate, Firstly good find on the greenhouse

I'm also a lover of the auto pot system myself. They are so versatile and also have a few different use cases in the way you can use the valve. Capillary matting etc. but there are indeed some learning curves to it. Those who know me from years ago will know I have grown some absolute monsters in them.

What it seems to me is you experiencing a buffer problem and not a deficiency this is almost always the case when it comes to coco. I prefer 50/50 coco perlite for auto-pots myself but grown monsters in pure as well. 70/30 works great also.

If you flushing due to super high ec which you shouldn't do in bottom fed systems as it's better to feed a lower EC throughout rather than have to flush the accumulated salts at a later date. But if you need to flush never use just plan water as it's better to use Cal mag or just use your normal feed and flush until its ec runoff is where you want it otherwise You risk losing your buffer. Then you will need to re-buff it again by soaking in 1.2ec calmag or up your calmag ec when feeding approx 0.6EC along with your a and b to make it up to no more than 1.4. and it will passively buff it but it will take a bit longer for the sites to be saturated with ca to exchange with the k.

My only other advice is to Skip all supplements ie pk boosters and anything organic. Although the new pipes are wider so will be ok with small amounts of fulvic acid which is in a few hydro feeds. But avoid humic acid and other organic supplements. They will just make your tank ph drift due to bacteria and build up in the pipes will happen and again even if your tank ph is correct the water in the feed pipes may not. This is more true with longer runs of autopots tho. do clean your tank now and then anyway mate as it will help in the long run over a grow ohhh and in regards to runoff ph when you were checking don't worry about it. Coco can buffer ph quite well so as long as your tank ph is good your plants should be. Apologies for the long post brother I actually deleted quite alot. Anyways.... Hope this helps man

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Thanks for the reply dude, really appreciate the advice.

I absolutely love them, I literally just got them as a stop-gap for holidays and I really don’t see myself going back any time soon. Perfect.

Next run I’m sticking with 100% coco but I think I may take your advice and go 50/50 with perlite the following run (next run is just a rushed one as I’m getting married, small plants are just being flipped immediately - I want a good comparative run to this so that I can see the difference)

This was a strange one, 3 out of the 4 plants were absolutely perfect and showed no signs of deficiencies at all - it was just that one.
So the main point I have to note is that I’m in an Easy2Grow system because of space restrictions, to enable me to get 4x autopots in. In turn, this means that 2x plants at any one time are being controlled by the aquavalve, not the one which it ideally should be if I were running a traditional autopot system!
With this In mind… I’ll explain my diagnosis as it seems like you’ll understand, as you know more than me!
Anyways… the one plant which had issues and needed flushed was my Ethos - Big D Energy. This is an absolutely beautiful plant but is a light light light feeder, very light compared to the rest. As it was being fed at the same rate as the others, and a higher EC, the EC in that one particular pot was building up and was at a staggering 3.6+++ EC (my blue lab truncheon was flashing like mad at 3.6 which is its highest reading, meaning it was much higher).

So the other 3 plants were actually feeding and using up all of the nutrition that was being fed, but the little ethos wasn’t and didn’t need anywhere near as much, as I was intentionally pushing tue other 3 and sacrificing that one as such by pushing the feed to maximise the rest of the tent.

So I don’t think there were any real issues, just one totally different cultivar needed completely different nutrition. Hard to explain properly but it all makes sense in my head and I know what to do for next time!

After I read your post o started experimenting by just taking velokelp out, a kelp extract/product and that stabilised my pH a bit more; but I think I’m going to keep everything else in for now. I just top feed microbes and mycorrhiza separately.

And yep, I clean my tank out thoroughly *every* single res change. Bleached, rinsed numerous times and then filled up! I also replace my lines every run.

Thanks so much for your informative post dude, really appreciate it!!

Sorry it’s taken so long to reply; been super busy and wanted to reply properly and not absolutely half ass it!!


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