Smokey Does Franco’s Lemon Cheese - Coco Run !!
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Re: Smokey Does Franco’s Lemon Cheese - Coco Run !!
Hi smokes you are on course for some big buds here mate. One thing i did notice the coco looked very dry up top. If you feel they are maturing to quickly check your numbers on the run off and feed just root stim and water phed for a few days. This prob would have been a good idea to do before switching to the hammerhead.Just dropping the EC imo wil not remove any excess pk quick enough. You might find that you need to up the liters per day per plant if getting to dry, as this will not help maintain i nice balance at the root.
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These are Booming smokes when you compare pics from 10 days ago until now. The root stim water only is basically a mid flower Flush but more gentle and less stressful on the plants. Is the ambering on all the plants? it is difficult to see in the pics and video. I would 100% not be panicking these are most def going to yield well i am confident of that (unless you go do something real stupid). comparison pics over 10 days growth.




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I was under the impression root stim was too rich in N and amino acids for that treatment? i had advised it if rhizo was available but i thought i remembered someone mentioning it being too heavy for use during flower? please correct me if im wrong, its how we learn :)kbag wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:43 amHi smokes you are on course for some big buds here mate. One thing i did notice the coco looked very dry up top. If you feel they are maturing to quickly check your numbers on the run off and feed just root stim and water phed for a few days. This prob would have been a good idea to do before switching to the hammerhead.Just dropping the EC imo wil not remove any excess pk quick enough. You might find that you need to up the liters per day per plant if getting to dry, as this will not help maintain i nice balance at the root.
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The ratio's are so minimal in the root stim MO i can see it having not any real affect on the goal needed to be achieved. I know it contains seaweed that is good for stress, but yes id prefer it to be rhizo what also contains trace elements and B vitamins and lots more.I was under the impression root stim was too rich in N and amino acids for that treatment? i had advised it if rhizo was available but i thought i remembered someone mentioning it being too heavy for use during flower? please correct me if im wrong, its how we learn
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Re: Smokey Does Franco’s Lemon Cheese - Coco Run !!
kbag wrote:Hi smokes you are on course for some big buds here mate. One thing i did notice the coco looked very dry up top. If you feel they are maturing to quickly check your numbers on the run off and feed just root stim and water phed for a few days. This prob would have been a good idea to do before switching to the hammerhead.Just dropping the EC imo wil not remove any excess pk quick enough. You might find that you need to up the liters per day per plant if getting to dry, as this will not help maintain i nice balance at the root.
Hi KB,
Where do is start ?? Ok so the pots are actually drying out daily I simply cannot miss a feed without full on wilt ! I they are both in 10l pots and religiously have 5l each per pay that gives me a decent run off amount if this isn’t enough I can add more although I imagine 5l should be about right ?? With regards to the maturing I can only imagine this has something to do with the crossover to the hammerhead the damage started with lower growth but has crept up to so I have 2 choices in my mind reduce feeds for a week or bring in some kind of mini flush I don’t have any rhizo to hand but I do have some PM Root stim, either method I’m happy to roll out
Thanks for your time gentleman hopefully I claw this back and get them back on track
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Together we learn and progress mate. thank you for clarifying for me :Dkbag wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:10 pmThe ratio's are so minimal in the root stim MO i can see it having any real affect on the goal needed to be achieved. I know it contains seaweed that is good for stress, but yes id prefer it to be rhizo what also contains trace elements and B vitamins and lots more.I was under the impression root stim was too rich in N and amino acids for that treatment? i had advised it if rhizo was available but i thought i remembered someone mentioning it being too heavy for use during flower? please correct me if im wrong, its how we learn
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Re: Smokey Does Franco’s Lemon Cheese - Coco Run !!
Ok Smokes so here my advice, up the water/feed to 6 liters introduce what we will call a mini flush just root stim for a few days 2-3 days really depends on numbers of run off. As plants will tell you quick enough when substrate is clean enough to re-introduce feeding schedule. You need to check numbers to keep a eye on it. Bit of a balancing act this smokes as they are not looking overfed. They actually are still pushing out white pistols so that is a good thing and tbh as i said these are going to be decent at the end.Hi KB,
Where do is start ?? Ok so the pots are actually drying out daily I simply cannot miss a feed without full on wilt ! I they are both in 10l pots and religiously have 5l each per pay that gives me a decent run off amount if this isn’t enough I can add more although I imagine 5l should be about right ?? With regards to the maturing I can only imagine this has something to do with the crossover to the hammerhead the damage started with lower growth but has crept up to so I have 2 choices in my mind reduce feeds for a week or bring in some kind of mini flush I don’t have any rhizo to hand but I do have some PM Root stim, either method I’m happy to roll out
Thanks for your time gentleman hopefully I claw this back and get them back on track
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Re: Smokey Does Franco’s Lemon Cheese - Coco Run !!
Sounds like a plan to me KB starting tonight so what are we talking 2ml root stim ?? I suppose it would be to late now to order some rhizo in for what we are trying to achieve. I had a convo with GMO yesterday and this is pretty much what he had said to me but using the Rhizo so i'm confident we can turn the corner. I am not worried as such just yet as they are still moving along.
With regards ti the run off i will start logging some numbers for you to disect
Cheers
Smokes
With regards ti the run off i will start logging some numbers for you to disect
Cheers
Smokes
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Re: Smokey Does Franco’s Lemon Cheese - Coco Run !!
I’ll get to work tonight on the new schedule 
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