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Nice looking plants Wu! Looking very healthy. Those petioles are long AF! Mad looking strain :)
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thats interesting. i know we arent using the same nutes but with the veg mix of a and b i found my PH drifted a lot(im talking .5 per day), but with the air stone and pump it didnt drift as much, perhaps .4 over about a 5 day period. i would PH down to 5.8 and then repeat. but with the flower nutes a and b if ound i got much less ph swing but then again, i have never used the flower nutes without the air stone and pump.
I just thought of your comment about two hours ago as I was washing up lol

So I thought added an air stone or circulator increases the pH.. but your theory means it keeps it more stable...interesting...maybe I read wrong or for some it does and some it doesn't or reduces the swing
PH can change due to many issues. If the tank is just recirculating and you're taking water from the res and hand watering then the PH increase is likely due to evaporation, temperature fluctuations or bacterial growth.

The reason why circulation pumps can slow down the PH rise is that moving the water will cause the water to pick up co2 from the air and form carbonic acid
CO2 + H2O -> H2CO3. The higher the PPM in the air the more aggressive the effect. In my personal experience, evaporation will outpace the changes due to recirculation but it deffo slows things down and the PH either stabilises or climbs much slower.
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seymore_budz wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:49 pm
Nice looking plants Wu! Looking very healthy.
wutang wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:09 pm
Hmr81 wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:32 am
thats interesting. i know we arent using the same nutes but with the veg mix of a and b i found my PH drifted a lot(im talking .5 per day), but with the air stone and pump it didnt drift as much, perhaps .4 over about a 5 day period. i would PH down to 5.8 and then repeat. but with the flower nutes a and b if ound i got much less ph swing but then again, i have never used the flower nutes without the air stone and pump.
I just thought of your comment about two hours ago as I was washing up lol

So I thought added an air stone or circulator increases the pH.. but your theory means it keeps it more stable...interesting...maybe I read wrong or for some it does and some it doesn't or reduces the swing
PH can change due to many issues. If the tank is just recirculating and you're taking water from the res and hand watering then the PH increase is likely due to evaporation, temperature fluctuations or bacterial growth.

The reason why circulation pumps can slow down the PH rise is that moving the water will cause the water to pick up co2 from the air and form carbonic acid
CO2 + H2O -> H2CO3. The higher the PPM in the air the more aggressive the affect. In my personal experience, evaporation will outpace the changes due to recirculation but it deffo slows things down and the PH either stabilises or climbs much slower.
Found this to be true. Previous grow no circulator. This grow it comes on every 3 hours for 2 hours or something like that to keep it mixed. Ph rises have been minimal.

Thank you buddy appreciate the love.
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Day 63 11/09/2023 Light at 80% 300w. Will monitor if there is a big impact on top nodes.

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Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:31 pm
Yeah deffo. I always did that before but didn't notice any burning..just dying lol.
Yes pk i find tends to crisp up leaves more so in shaded areas like under plant, yes ok leaves die of faster and naturally down their in darker conditions, but yes just summink i tend to notice more so when using pk boost later in bloom.
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Pk13/14 to be used late flower?
Nowt to say it cant be used any time from early to late in bloom i see peeps use it. Personally myself i prefer using it for 3 weeks before i flush pots right back and put them on water for last 2 weeks.

So shall I stick with buddy for now?
I used it all way through and dropped it when i moved over to pk13/14 boost when i used the stuff in past. Vitalink dont recommend using both together at same time and more like i just mentioned. That said theirs some crazy high pk boosts like pk50/55 or summink like that, prolly even higher ones around that peeps use without too much fuss, but they dont tend to use them all way in bloom. I've just got my hands some shooting powder which is crazy high P & K shit so im gonna give that a whirl for 2nd week of bloom to hopefully give plants a little push with knocking lots buds sites out early on, i might even give it a whirl last week or two before i flush pots back, But too much can be shitty stuff, that can effect taste and how your buds burn if plants not flushed out properly. Past few grows I've used pk9/18 last 3 before flush, im not sure if im convinced with it or not, i may stick it out one more grow see what crack is using my bigger light. . 8-)
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Close up of the highest node closest to light. I may have to sacrifice these 2 at the top closest to the light and keep light on 80% power as the TBL has soo many bud sights lower than this plant and overall this one has more bud sites over the TP..the TBL seems to be happy but is probably about 2inches away from the closest TP nodes.

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Tangie unfortunately grew straight into the bulb..now thankfully it wasn't a hps bulb (just thought of that now, don't want to think what could have happen3d). But these were literally touching the led at 80% power

I managed to move the light further up by some spare ratchets I had with smaller carabiner clips that went through the is530 fixture.

I hope she bloody stops growing. I never knew this would happen lol. Must remember to veg shorter and not take it easy lol

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Ph to 6.0

Remains at 6.0 in the res
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LST in veg is your friend well either that or veg less like you say. But looks sound man and stretching like the mad should just about have stopped by now although it will still grow but very much slower. Still it might be an idea squeezing those top bigger dominant stems about 6inches down a few inches above second set of fan leaves whilst its not shed loads of weight on and then just flop/bend them over gently. Very much more pliable and easier to do in bloom than in veg me thinks when stems snap much easier. It will recover in no time (a week) and spread auxins from apical dominant shoots/stems around plant more evenly to help out those side shoots a little. Just leave it to do it shit and for real plant will work its magic. Well its another option Wu. Nice plant though mukka.
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:i agree:

I'd bend them over below the canopy and use a bit of soft wire or bonsai wire to keep them bent, the tops will bend back up then and if you worked it out just right, they should be the same height as the others.

Light pinch and a bend works wonders.

Looking nice Wu!

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Thanks gents. I managed to move the light about 5inches up. So it's got some room. Think she is now focusing on making buds and stretch has hopefully slow3d. Otherwise I'll brave the bending.. yes I'm a virgin of doing it in flower. I only ever LST in veg. Peace
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