#2 Diary by fabi420 - Chocolate Mint OG / Clones / Living Soil

[fabi420]

Unfortunately I do not know. I'm at my wits end. I wouldn't assume this is from the thrips. So from what I've read online, thrips shouldn't be doing this kind of damage. But I do not know for sure.

Well if you`ve got thrips infestation ? They can decimate your crop if left to do their own thing.

I was also thinking your soil could be cooking them as well, basically it maybe a bit hot, i know it didn't burn plants early on but lots of organic shit takes time to break down and become readily available to plant. Then again can you can cook your plants growing organically ? I read peeps saying you cant, but i cant think why you can`t if you overdo it.

But my thoughts are if its not a bug infestation then plants are cooking in that soil. Have you been spraying plants on a regular basis with summink ? Basically what's different now to what they looked like a few weeks ago. But in my head its either a full weight bug infestation doing it or your dirt is cooking them if that's possible

I'm still fighting the thrips. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do during the flowering phase, apart from letting the predatory mites do their thing. In the vegetation I sprayed them with a mixture of water, olive oil and dish soap. This mix was recommended for such plants. I had already decimated them badly, but they're back.

The manufacturer of the Living Soil mix has stated that over-fertilizing is practically impossible because the microorganisms break down the nutrients according to the plants' needs, so you never have too much available nutrients.
However, he also gives a recommended mixing ratio with the soil for each phase of the plant. So it sounds like you could over-fertilize. That goes with what you said too. Difficult thing.

I don't think I've changed anything, that's why I'm so surprised myself. They just started going downhill. It started with the oldest lower leaves dying off and it's worked its way up. You can see it in the diary. Those were really beautiful plants.

[2-Scoops]

Prolly look at bombing your room once grow is done, i recently had spidermite and used two smoke like bug bombs in their with extraction off for 3 or 4 hours, Not had problems this grow.

[fabi420]

Prolly look at bombing your room once grow is done, i recently had spidermite and used two smoke like bug bombs in their with extraction off for 3 or 4 hours, Not had problems this grow.

Oh I just saw your answer now, thanks for the tip. I'll see what I can find about it.

[fabi420]

6th update - after 13.5 weeks

We are now 7 weeks into bloom and 6 weeks red spectrum.
They just look awful. Two are dying completely, two appear to be just starting to bloom and the only acceptable plant is finishing. It's going to be a tough time for me as the yield will be beyond paltry.
I can only hope that everything will go well again next time, since I'm finally using seed plants again.

[sybarite]

Sorry to see this fabi. I love Choc Mint OG too, such a great strain. Some locals were growing it and I just bought their 2.0 version so hoping it's as good. I contacted HSO to ask if they'd be releasing Blue Dream again and they will be, along with some of their other classics.

I understand you have bugs but that's not what the main issue looks like to me. Not sure if anyone mentioned this before but your issue could be too much light, especially if LEDs. It's also important to keep leaf temps within a range when using them. I find manufacturer's recommendations for light distance and brightness are often incompatible with certain strains and I need to dim them or raise them until they are about two or three weeks into bloom, sometimes four - it's the cause of most of my problems - in a nutshell, too much light and humidity, not enough heat (during UK winter), so plants cannot transpire effectively. These links are very useful:

https://www.growweedeasy.com/too-much-light

https://www.thriveagritech.com/avoid-th ... ds-to-hps/

Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs

Better luck next time!

[biosynthetic]

Yeh you need to fix the bug problem bro have you tried nematodes?

[Pet G]

Maybe look at topping these down to same size, this strain left un-topped may get really tall. Also id be looking at flipping them sharpish if your gonna leave them cus looking at them now they will fill that room in no time both in height and width its gonna be bursting at seams , but if you top around 2 or 3 inches away from each, so they are all same height, you could easily give them a week to 10 days to recover and start growing out then you flip to bloom. Personally id be doing latter suggestion Fabi. If you top them maybe use a few tops as cuttings cus from what i been told and seen this looks a corker of strain.

If you do the cutting thing i find this way more or less bomb proof, basically i just chop top away and stick it in a small pot of wet coco with 1ml of A&B in. I then stick a pop bottle over top that`s been sprayed inside and leave it alone for a few weeks or so till its rooted, it shouldn't need touching again for any reason. If ya not gotta spare light stick it under a lightbulb so as its warm it be sound.

Totally agree @2-Scoops I don't mist ..the water bottle keep T/H perfect.

[Pet G]

Man..looked through.There was a mention of deficiency's.Noticed purple streaking when the were starting to take of earlier in the grow..looked like mine till I raised the light.It such a head F at times..head scratch.

[fabi420]

Sorry to see this fabi. I love Choc Mint OG too, such a great strain. Some locals were growing it and I just bought their 2.0 version so hoping it's as good. I contacted HSO to ask if they'd be releasing Blue Dream again and they will be, along with some of their other classics.

I understand you have bugs but that's not what the main issue looks like to me. Not sure if anyone mentioned this before but your issue could be too much light, especially if LEDs. It's also important to keep leaf temps within a range when using them. I find manufacturer's recommendations for light distance and brightness are often incompatible with certain strains and I need to dim them or raise them until they are about two or three weeks into bloom, sometimes four - it's the cause of most of my problems - in a nutshell, too much light and humidity, not enough heat (during UK winter), so plants cannot transpire effectively. These links are very useful:

https://www.growweedeasy.com/too-much-light

https://www.thriveagritech.com/avoid-th ... ds-to-hps/

Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs

Better luck next time!

Thank you! I also hope that the 2.0 is like the first. And I also hope that the Passion Fruit Punch will come back as well.

I don't think the bugs are the main problem either.
I've done quite a few grows with these lights, even with only half the current spacing. It is very unlikely that this is the cause.
BUT, when I read through your links, I have to admit that everything actually fits.
And I can confirm that my winter was just like yours. But actually every year and this dying I have for the first time.
Thank you for your message, I will pay more attention in the future, I don't want this to happen to me again.

[fabi420]

Yeh you need to fix the bug problem bro have you tried nematodes?

Thank you for your message! I haven't tried nematodes yet because I thought they didn't help with thrips. But now I've read it again and I'll probably try it out.