Lit Farms Pheno Hut

[Keeno]

I'm still in awe you are at 5ec. I know 2 Scoops run hotter than most with his feed, but not that high

Plants seem to be enjoying it though. Fair play

[ncrypta.core]

@Keeno I’m not technically at 5ec I’m only at 4.4 lol, but I presume that people still think it’s silly high, my friend calls me a mad scientist . As he says he only at 1.6ec and we both on the same flower day.

The interesting bit I’ve learned from the past run and this run is no point raising your light to dim it up over 3 week to max power, instead of just put it to max from day one as other people suggest, its makes you lose time and I presume it’s stretch’s more. As if they are eating more ain’t the going be a bigger plant at the end. I feel like this could trigger some people lmao

Theory
In veg let’s saying max your running at is 450-500ppfd. Your light are on 18hours so your dli is round 29.1 - 32.4. But you decide dim up turn your for first 3 weeks so if week 1 of flower is still at 500ppfd your dli would have dropped to 21. Which would mean in veg they were getting more light than first 3 weeks of flower. Instead of using your dli as guidance to set flower light setting, as less light = less food needed

Example
Veg
500 ppfd * 18hrs = 32.4 DlI

Flower day 1
32.4dli / 12hrs = 750ppfd

To the plant your giving the same amount of light than was in veg so no need to step up over 3 weeks, who every say that you do is just bro science. Don’t believe me try it yourself. Find your dli of your veg run and match it for day one of flower. Only time to start turning your ppfd down is like start of week 5 or 6 then by the last week down to like 700 as be feeding 1.0

I learnt this from aroya, compound/cltv, craft farmer and another guy. Next round my veg going be at 750 so can hit 1300 easier

This photo was taken day 19/F. Ppfd: 1200 - EC:4.4 - Dli:52


Btw I’ve never had the light bleach my plant yet.

My feeding plan from noa untill end. Broken it up into 2 parts. Part 1 res filled, part 2 top up

Ec:
End of week 3: 4.4

Wk 4.1 : 4.0
Wk 4.2 : 3.75

Wk5.1: 3.5
Wk5.2: 3.25

Wk6.1: 3.0
Wk6.2: 2.5

Wk7.1: 2.25
Wk7.2: 1.80

Wk8.1: 1.5
Wk8.2: 1.25

Wk9+: 1.0

The 2 coco pots will be flushed only 4 days before harvest and Rockwool will be a day before. Learnt this also from aroya with when comes to flushing.

Any questions more than welcome

[Keeno]

They ate still riding the high feed . Fair play for giving this a go @ncrypta.core.

[ncrypta.core]

Week 4 Flower

All in well had to strip some more leaves off and they have finally stopped growing will start raising light next week aswell as starting to lower ec

Start of week EC: 4.4
Today Day 25 EC: 3.62
Ph: 6.1

Athena pro Core:Bloom 30:70

[ncrypta.core]

For all the one that are wondering how am getting to 4.4ec mostly my environment but light intensity is very very important

Increasing your light intensity will increase the rate of photosynthesis until another component is in short supply.
Carbon dioxide - with water - is a catalyst in photosynthesis. If there isn't enough c02 to keep up with the levels of light provided the rate of photosynthesis will plateau.

If the concentration of carbon dioxide is increased, the rate of photosynthesis will therefore increase.
Temperature also affects photosynthetic rates **the rate of photosynthesis is limited by the number of molecular collisions between enzymes and substrates.** as the temperature increases, so do the number of collisions.

So what is the limit.

Studies have shown the optimal temperature for achieving maximum photosynthetic rates to be between 25°c-30°c at up to 1250ppm concentration ambient c02 at a ppfd of up to 1500 umol/m?/s during flowerwith a net loss increase up to 2000ppfd (meaning that as we pass 1500, the amount of energy input is more than photosynthesis gained)

These extreme rates are optimal conditions. Transpiration rates, water content, vpd temperature, cultivar and light spectrum will all impact your saturation point and various stages of your plants growth will require different light intensities to achieve optimal photosynthetic rates.

100-250 umol/m?/s seedlings and clones
250-600 umol/m~/s- veg/ late veg
600-750 umol/m?/- transition
750-1500 umol/m?/s- flower and bloom

Are ideal targets provided all of the other variables are within spec.

[2-Scoops]

The 2 coco pots will be flushed only 4 days before harvest and Rockwool will be a day before. Learnt this also from aroya with when comes to flushing.

I'm gonna have to disagree with Anoya on this one ncrypta. Speaking from tons of experience growing i can honestly say now that bud which has been flushed through properly and yellowed up as much as possible with no green (chlorophyll) left in leafage or very little produces a much smoother and tastier smoke than the green leaved that's not been flushed through properly. A good thing to take note of with bud that's not done right is your joint will go out constantly nearly every drag and need lighting not only that but i think taste is much harsher on back of neck/throat. Just speaking from my own experiences growing here. So yes I`m gonna throw a custard pie at Anoya on this one and say nope that's not way to go if your wanting tip-top buddage that's not full of chlororphyll. End of shift those green leaves are full of carbs or feed for plant so theirs really no need to feed right to end of your grow cus those will feed plant whilst your flushing them through properly.

[ncrypta.core]

@2-Scoops

Not saying your way is wrong as if it works don’t fix it. And thank you for your reply but wasn’t aroya that originally said it it was Athena lol aroya does mention it in one of there videos and they explain why you don’t as makes a weaker plant .

Athena feeding chart and what they say

[2-Scoops]

The 2 coco pots will be flushed only 4 days before harvest and Rockwool will be a day before. Learnt this also from aroya with when comes to flushing.

I'm gonna have to disagree with Anoya on this one ncrypta. Speaking from tons of experience growing i can honestly say now that bud which has been flushed through properly and yellowed up as much as possible with no green (chlorophyll) left in leafage or very little produces a much smoother and tastier smoke than the green leaved that's not been flushed through properly. A good thing to take note of with bud that's not done right is your joint will go out constantly nearly every drag and need lighting not only that but i think taste is much harsher on back of neck/throat. Just speaking from my own experiences growing here. So yes I`m gonna throw a custard pie at Anoya on this one and say nope that's not way to go if your wanting tip-top buddage that's not full of chlororphyll. End of shift those green leaves are full of carbs or feed for plant so theirs really no need to feed right to end of your grow cus those will feed plant whilst your flushing them through properly.

re this: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes oops sorry i meant Athena not Aroya. But yes i really cant see why you would want calcium ions or any others in your buddage for that matter, a good flush just leaves trace elements behind without that your plants are gonna be full of every type of ion available. Nah not for me. Obviously flushing a plant through properly will create a weaker plant eventually towards end as it uses stored up ions or carbs, whatever you wanna call your feeds, but yes im all for flushing plant out as much as possible, not that its always possible if i get my timing's wrong for new strains i dont know right, but a good flush through for sure creates a much better tastier toke at end of shift cus plant int full of left over crap. I really cant see any logic to their way of doing it and a lot more to how i and lots more peeps do it to make a better toke, well in my experience that is mate.

[Keeno]

Only at week 4... this is gonna be epic @ncrypta.core. You are proving the feed test is more than working.

[ncrypta.core]

The 2 coco pots will be flushed only 4 days before harvest and Rockwool will be a day before. Learnt this also from aroya with when comes to flushing.

I'm gonna have to disagree with Anoya on this one ncrypta. Speaking from tons of experience growing i can honestly say now that bud which has been flushed through properly and yellowed up as much as possible with no green (chlorophyll) left in leafage or very little produces a much smoother and tastier smoke than the green leaved that's not been flushed through properly. A good thing to take note of with bud that's not done right is your joint will go out constantly nearly every drag and need lighting not only that but i think taste is much harsher on back of neck/throat. Just speaking from my own experiences growing here. So yes I`m gonna throw a custard pie at Anoya on this one and say nope that's not way to go if your wanting tip-top buddage that's not full of chlororphyll. End of shift those green leaves are full of carbs or feed for plant so theirs really no need to feed right to end of your grow cus those will feed plant whilst your flushing them through properly.

re this: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes oops sorry i meant Athena not Aroya. But yes i really cant see why you would want calcium ions or any others in your buddage for that matter, a good flush just leaves trace elements behind without that your plants are gonna be full of every type of ion available. Nah not for me. Obviously flushing a plant through properly will create a weaker plant eventually towards end as it uses stored up ions or carbs, whatever you wanna call your feeds, but yes im all for flushing plant out as much as possible, not that its always possible if i get my timing's wrong for new strains i dont know right, but a good flush through for sure creates a much better tastier toke at end of shift cus plant int full of left over crap. I really cant see any logic to their way of doing it and a lot more to how i and lots more peeps do it to make a better toke, well in my experience that is mate.

Love a debate :)

I’m not disagreeing with you as I do get it, I’ve was doing a 2 week flush then with the conscious testers decided to try a 3 week flush and this is where it changed for me. As some had no terps nothing one was ok tho, I started researching flush and came around a scientific research paper about it

Link:https://www.rxgreentechnologies.com/rxgt_trials/flus

For the people that don’t want to read it

hing-trial/

Growlink have a similar view

For me
in the last few weeks my feeding going be at 1Ec, my tap water runs at 0.7ec, so not much difference, to me close to true flush. How would you see this ?

As Ed Rosenthal say for coco fush one week if bottom leaves are green and 3-4 days if they are yellow.