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2-Scoops wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:46 pm
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I wouldn't bother with any of the additives you buy as extras everything the plants need is in the base ferts
Yes all elements in a chemical form of nutrients are in A&B for plants needs and you really don`t need anything else, but rhizo and zyme additives don't usually contain any typo nutrients, they contain much more stuff like vits hormones, aminos and zymes, in fact these typo products they don't usually contain anything that A&B has in and shouldn't register a reading with EC pen unlike with A&B it measures chemical salts.

TBH if growing with chemical base ferts or hydroponically i cant see point in using zyme products although it shouldn`t do any harm at all. IMO best use of zymes is if you grow organically in dirt, it will help break organic matter down for the plant.

Root tonics on the other hand can be a top additive added with any typo grows, id prolly drop the stuff if using it when i flipped to flower, make it go further cus its not cheap, root tonic on younger plants like seedling and young cutts is another great option, that said it shouldn't hurt using right through to chop although an expensive option and kinda a waste of money used that way. 8-)


Thank you for the information!
It makes a lot of sense!


I have a question the leaves at the bottom.
Should I trim the bottom leaves of as they aren’t getting any light?


Thank you!
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i do tend to trim off the odd leaf if its at the bottom and not getting any light, but i dont like to trim too much as it can slow her down(in my opinion). i usually only really remove them to increase air flow.
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I don't remove anything until stretch is over because it can cause the plant to stretch more ,after 21 days of 12 / 12 i remove the bottom third or so of the plant . But everyone does defoliating a bit different if you look at mr 2 scoops diaries he removes nearly everything and they seem to love him for it , but that's a bit extreme for me , and some people don't remove anything there's no hard and fast rules you just have to find what works for you
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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WshYu wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:16 pm
I have a question the leaves at the bottom.
Should I trim the bottom leaves of as they aren’t getting any light?
I trim away bottom 3rd all at once ideally 3 weeks into flowering but sometimes i cant get in to move plants so it gets done anytime between 2 and 3 weeks into flower.

Removing up to a 3rd of foliage in one go shouldn`t cause too much stress or any problems ive never known it too anyhow, but removing more in one go may slow plant down a wee bit or lets say knock it back a bit . The plant in picture was done at 10days into bloom, so i removed a lot more than a 3rd cus its still stretching like mad and it still has time to grow out, where as if i was to do it 3 weeks into bloom which is best time tbh, then removing a 3rd only is sound and way to go cus plant will be slowing stretching by then. It wont grow out if ya remove too much at this time hence a 3rd from bottom is cool

This was done around 10 days in to flower Image
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same plant, well theirs two plants their at 21 days in flowerImage
Just before chop. Image
I wouldn't ever go removing more than a 3rd till you know score a bit more and are confident in what your doing and id be sticking to doing that at 21days into flower if ya do it, also remove any crappy little thin vine like shoots that aren't worth a wank.
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2-Scoops wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:35 pm
WshYu wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:16 pm
I have a question the leaves at the bottom.
Should I trim the bottom leaves of as they aren’t getting any light?
I trim away bottom 3rd all at once ideally 3 weeks into flowering but sometimes i cant get in to move plants so it gets done anytime between 2 and 3 weeks into flower.

Removing up to a 3rd of foliage in one go shouldn`t cause too much stress or any problems ive never known it too anyhow, but removing more in one go may slow plant down a wee bit or lets say knock it back a bit . The plant in picture was done at 10days into bloom, so i removed a lot more than a 3rd cus its still stretching like mad and it still has time to grow out, where as if i was to do it 3 weeks into bloom which is best time tbh, then removing a 3rd only is sound and way to go cus plant will be slowing stretching by then. It wont grow out if ya remove too much at this time hence a 3rd from bottom is cool

This was done around 10 days in to flower Image
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same plant, well theirs two plants their at 21 days in flowerImage
Just before chop. Image
I wouldn't ever go removing more than a 3rd till you know score a bit more and are confident in what your doing and id be sticking to doing that at 21days into flower if ya do it, also remove any crappy little thin vine like shoots that aren't worth a wank.

Wow thank you 🙏 you’re so kind and thank you for your insight and skills! I appreciate the knowledge from you and everyone! I will post some updates as I feel like i had a lot of things wrong! But the grow has improved drastically since the dehumidifier which I’m now getting a bigger one as I couldn’t get humidity down below 70. But what I did see was drastic improvements! So thank you!

I am on 1.5 feed and ph is around 5.9 ticking along nicely! Last night my lst clips came and I fitted them on the plants! Which was fun! I removed the trellis as I felt like I was missing deficiencies as I couldn’t move the plants being tied down 😀

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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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This was when the de humidifier turned up 2 days ago.

Reduced humidity to 70% on max but couldn’t get any lower sadly.

Investing into a better system!
so sending this one back!

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It did hit 60% but the from the above picture but readings after that sat at 70 - 80 %



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I removed some of the lower fan leaves which I felt were getting zapped of nutrients for the rest of the plant!

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Looking at my plants deciding what to do!
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Taken last night after the clips were applied
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Hmr81 wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:54 am
i do tend to trim off the odd leaf if its at the bottom and not getting any light, but i dont like to trim too much as it can slow her down(in my opinion). i usually only really remove them to increase air flow.


Thank you for your insight! I appreciate all opinions!

I think I’ve stunted growth from my humidity and feeding issues but onwards and upwards 😀. I appreciate all the help

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So I feel like my plants started on the 3rd dec

I’m on week 5 now - I feel like I should hold fire on the flip until week 7?

A question I have regarding seeds projected yield.

A site suggests 650g m.2
Is that dry or wet?

Thank you for the help!

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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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up to you when you flip. bear in mind the plant will treble in size.

i would completely ignore the packets weight(i always assume they quote dry weight btw). Yield will be determined by the space you are growing in. 650g (22 oz or so)in a 1x1 tent sounds impossible to me. i can never seem to break the 10oz mark in my 80x80x160 tent.
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