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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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Oh , forgot to say. I keep my lights 50cm from the plant with no more than 20k Lux during veg, going to about 28k in flower. Again, that's just what I do it's not instructions lol.
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:22 pm
Hi buddy, others may not agree but I would only be feeding with a and b , nothing else should be needed really. Something like 1.5ml per ltr at 5.8ph is what I hand feed in Coco, I feed till it starts to run off and then stop. A good reset can be a good thing, over feed and get a good 200ml run off to clear out any stuck salts or other crap and then go back to feeding just to run off.
You could do with bringing the Rh down a little of you can, something like 60% of possible. A cup of bowl of uncooked rice can help bring it down if you haven't got a dehumidifier.
I'm with you hmr I only use a and b usually I've only recently started using pk 13 14 I wouldn't bother with any of the additives you buy as extras everything the plants need is in the base ferts, also with the humidity are you extracting outside of your room if so your humidity should be lower, what lights on temperatures have you got the higher the temps the lower the humidity will be, don't panic wshyu they are pretty tough plants especially in veg stage, I agree with everything hmr has said good luck mate
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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I've got the full shogun range and other than the a and b, I use the pk in flower and a little sumo boost at the end which is like a 0-5-5 additive at the end for a week. Usually if I buffer the Coco we'll then I don't tend to get calmag issues. But you aren't doing anything wrong and they will be fine, amazing what shit these plants can take. My little experiment with just clay balls as a medium has put this grow through hell and back lol. Still grew something lol
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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Hmr81 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:22 pm
Hi buddy, others may not agree but I would only be feeding with a and b , nothing else should be needed really. Something like 1.5ml per ltr at 5.8ph is what I hand feed in Coco, I feed till it starts to run off and then stop. A good reset can be a good thing, over feed and get a good 200ml run off to clear out any stuck salts or other crap and then go back to feeding just to run off.
You could do with bringing the Rh down a little of you can, something like 60% of possible. A cup of bowl of uncooked rice can help bring it down if you haven't got a dehumidifier.
I appreciate your help, a lot! Thank you! I did not think of rice, you are a legend! I will pick a humidifier up asap rice will do the job for now until I can get the humidifier! Before I flower 😅

I need to mix a/b and top feed until it runs off to the through the bottom and reset the plants of any nutrient build ups!


Thank you for the information everyone has been amazing ❤️
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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Hmr81 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:23 pm
Oh , forgot to say. I keep my lights 50cm from the plant with no more than 20k Lux during veg, going to about 28k in flower. Again, that's just what I do it's not instructions lol.

Thank you again for the help!

I think I’m a bit lacking on lux knowledge!


I have ish265 ecplise its set to around 40 I set the plant to 20 inches away from the plant too!


Is this okay!?

Thank you again ❤️
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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I think 20 inch is about 50 cm so can't be far off, measured from the top of the canopy. I just use a lux app on my Android phone, nothing complex but gives a guide as to how much light you've got going on which I think it's good enough for a home grower.
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Wrh wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:42 pm
Hmr81 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:22 pm
Hi buddy, others may not agree but I would only be feeding with a and b , nothing else should be needed really. Something like 1.5ml per ltr at 5.8ph is what I hand feed in Coco, I feed till it starts to run off and then stop. A good reset can be a good thing, over feed and get a good 200ml run off to clear out any stuck salts or other crap and then go back to feeding just to run off.
You could do with bringing the Rh down a little of you can, something like 60% of possible. A cup of bowl of uncooked rice can help bring it down if you haven't got a dehumidifier.
I'm with you hmr I only use a and b usually I've only recently started using pk 13 14 I wouldn't bother with any of the additives you buy as extras everything the plants need is in the base ferts, also with the humidity are you extracting outside of your room if so your humidity should be lower, what lights on temperatures have you got the higher the temps the lower the humidity will be, don't panic wshyu they are pretty tough plants especially in veg stage, I agree with everything hmr has said good luck mate


Thank you I will cut down the other additives and A/B all the way!

It’s definitely been a lot of lessons with these plants it’s great that I’ve made it this far I thought some may get messed up but everyone has been super helpful!

Glad I went photo as I need to learn the plant before I do any autos humidity has gone really high and I will use the rice to sort that till I get paid for the humidifier 🙃 much love for all the help
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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Hmr81 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:22 pm
I think 20 inch is about 50 cm so can't be far off, measured from the top of the canopy. I just use a lux app on my Android phone, nothing complex but gives a guide as to how much light you've got going on which I think it's good enough for a home grower.
I will get one now!!!
Thank the lord I got that right!

Thank you for your knowledge 🙂
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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No worries, if it can go wrong then I've probs done it anyway lol.
I'm going back to Coco for my next run, need to get my stocks up and usually have good results in Coco.
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Re: Blue cheese - first grow - 3X3

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Wrh wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:42 pm
I wouldn't bother with any of the additives you buy as extras everything the plants need is in the base ferts
Yes all elements in a chemical form of nutrients are in A&B for plants needs and you really don`t need anything else, but rhizo and zyme additives don't usually contain any typo nutrients, they contain much more stuff like vits hormones, aminos and zymes, in fact these typo products they don't usually contain anything that A&B has in and shouldn't register a reading with EC pen unlike with A&B it measures chemical salts.

TBH if growing with chemical base ferts or hydroponically i cant see point in using zyme products although it shouldn`t do any harm at all. IMO best use of zymes is if you grow organically in dirt, it will help break organic matter down for the plant.

Root tonics on the other hand can be a top additive added with any typo grows, id prolly drop the stuff if using it when i flipped to flower, make it go further cus its not cheap, root tonic on younger plants like seedling and young cutts is another great option, that said it shouldn't hurt using right through to chop although an expensive option and kinda a waste of money used that way. 8-)
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