Double Strawberry Diesel Jones

[Wrh]

They are looking better mate and I'm well impressed with your meter if it does everything for 20 quid its a bargain , you would have thought it would be impossible to over water with clay balls and coco mix , im going to try and do our next grow all led but it is a struggle to keep the temps up isn't it , I think its much easier to learn led growing if you've never used hid before , its difficult for me to unlearn the hid "rules" . Anyway I'm waffling They will soon catch up I'm sure

[2-Scoops]

Sling the HPS in there Jimbo, it's getting chilly!

They look fine n dandy now dude.

Yes cheers mate i did add 250mh to veg and heat room up, turned down extraction, jobs a good en hopefully.

And that 2nd picture looks like they'r3 about to cross swords at the urinal...
They do it in the 6th picture and in the 7th picture they're all embarrased about it cause someone walked in on them.

Lol you barmy brains but i see what your on with run off doo-dahs

[2-Scoops]

They are looking better mate and I'm well impressed with your meter if it does everything for 20 quid its a bargain , you would have thought it would be impossible to over water with clay balls and coco mix , im going to try and do our next grow all led but it is a struggle to keep the temps up isn't it , I think its much easier to learn led growing if you've never used hid before , its difficult for me to unlearn the hid "rules" . Anyway I'm waffling They will soon catch up I'm sure

Yes i take your point, in all honesty I've never had overwatering woes and ways running with hps lights they will take what you sling at them, im not saying LED caused it like but obviously cus room is a bit cooler (22-23c and 17-18c at nights) and im using less light with LED turned right down, they are gonna be growing slower and drinking less , tbh its just bloody common sense when you look at it and what i was doing wrong . Less feeds more light & heat in room was all that was needed for better uptake, shit happens though all being well they heading right way now. Cheers man.

[seymore_budz]

They are looking better mate and I'm well impressed with your meter if it does everything for 20 quid its a bargain , you would have thought it would be impossible to over water with clay balls and coco mix , im going to try and do our next grow all led but it is a struggle to keep the temps up isn't it , I think its much easier to learn led growing if you've never used hid before , its difficult for me to unlearn the hid "rules" . Anyway I'm waffling They will soon catch up I'm sure

Yes i take your point, in all honesty I've never had overwatering woes and ways running with hps lights they will take what you sling at them, im not saying LED caused it like but obviously cus room is a bit cooler (22-23c and 17-18c at nights) and im using less light with LED turned right down, they are gonna be growing slower and drinking less , tbh its just bloody common sense when you look at it and what i was doing wrong . Less feeds more light & heat in room was all that was needed for better uptake, shit happens though all being well they heading right way now. Cheers man.

Took me ages to get used to LED lights. I'm still not there TBH, things like this catch me out all the time. When I first started with LED, I thought it would just replace my HID lamp, but just be a little cooler, but I've had to change my whole style of growing to suit.

This change in the weather has caught me out too. I had my first alarm yesterday telling me that my room dipped below 18C. I like to keep things 22-24C in the dark period and 28C during the light period. I find if I dip below 25C during lights on, it has quite an effect on the amount of water my plants consume. 28C and they will go through 10L/m2 in about 2 days, but if the room drops down to 25-26C, then it drops to about 6-8L.

Interestingly, I watched a podcast the other day with some bods and they were discussing temperatures during the dark period and mentioned that some research has been done into optimal temperature for the dark perios, and it may be higher that we all think.

[2-Scoops]

Took me ages to get used to LED lights. I'm still not there TBH, things like this catch me out all the time. When I first started with LED, I thought it would just replace my HID lamp, but just be a little cooler, but I've had to change my whole style of growing to suit.

Thing about it is that its hardly first time I've grown using LED i mean i grew crops with cree cobs quite a few years back now, its just im never a fan long enough when i switch to LED me thinks in comparison to HPS. My main lighting these days is an LED and HPS combo for best of both worlds.

But it was summink Wrh said in first post on this page, along the lines of once getting used to growing with a certain light you tend forget you need to change things up a wee bit when switch or change to summink else or unlearn one for other. I really get with that for sure yes. I'm putting it down to one of those DOH.... moments i frequently have nowadays.

I find if I dip below 25C during lights on, it has quite an effect on the amount of water my plants consume.

100% yes that caught me out and is what caused problems im pretty sure of it Seymour.

TBH i only got the current LED to grow a crop a year during Summer months but i was bering a tight git trying to save dosh on leccy vegging up and its hardly been real cold yet. But jobs a good en were on right track now.

[wutang]

And Dry ferts that im using with a 60/40 A&B mix ratio atmo and my new EC & PH measuring toy

I got the same ph/ppm ec meter from amazon.

The ppm measurements from the pen seem to be in line with the ppm(truncheon) on the canna fert calculator

[2-Scoops]

The ppm measurements from the pen seem to be in line with the ppm(truncheon) on the canna fert calculator

Yes i mainly got cus i thought my ph pen was on its way out, but nah both my old EC & PH pens were still good when checked against this when id calibrated it. Stuck in a draw as back ups now, but i couldn't resist this purchase it looked a bargain, even cheaper by a few quid on flerabay but i wanted next day delivery via Prime. Theirs a few readings on it like salts i dont understand and ive not really looked to try tbh, i thought it maybe old EC salt measurements used in UK typo instruments kinda 1.6 ms/cm EC instead of 1600 us.cm EC, but nah its nowt like, but im good and only use us/cm EC and PH on it so jobs a good en.

[2-Scoops]

These have started to grow again good style now so as of today I've upped feed amounts from 500-600ml daily which they have had since i started feeding again, last Friday i think it was. So today i upped amount and its been the first feed I've given to a little run off since starting back up root feeding, they are now getting around 1 to 1.2ltr each

Today I've also tied all shoots down that i can. I took a few pictures to show where they`re at. All being well I'm gonna flip these back end of next week sometime.

To me there looks to be two really different phenos here, the P1 has longer node space where as P2 has looks to have really compact tight node spacing, but i should know more when they are in bloom. I`ll be taking a few cutts from each and ill decide which pheno to grow as and when needs be.

Oh yes feeds are same 60%A/40%B and 1/2ml of silicic acid per litre to an EC around 1.2`ish @ PH5.8.

[wutang]

The ppm measurements from the pen seem to be in line with the ppm(truncheon) on the canna fert calculator

Yes i mainly got cus i thought my ph pen was on its way out, but nah both my old EC & PH pens were still good when checked against this when id calibrated it. Stuck in a draw as back ups now, but i couldn't resist this purchase it looked a bargain, even cheaper by a few quid on flerabay but i wanted next day delivery via Prime. Theirs a few readings on it like salts i dont understand and ive not really looked to try tbh, i thought it maybe old EC salt measurements used in UK typo instruments kinda 1.6 ms/cm EC instead of 1600 us.cm EC, but nah its nowt like, but im good and only use us/cm EC and PH on it so jobs a good en.

Do you know if u can change what the pH calibrates to? Bt default irs 6.8pi believe. But I have ph buffer ph7.0 by vitality.. so I just buffered against that and take 0.2 off everytime? Ppm seems accurate and in line with what I said above. Compared it against my essentials ec pen before it completed died out..again.. and it was pretty bang when I converted from ec to ppm

[seymore_budz]

Looks like they're off again! Nice work @2-Scoops. How are you finding the dry fertiliser?

I've toyed with the idea of moving over to a dry powder over liquid fertiliser, but I still have a shit-ton of liquid fertiliser. I bought 5ltr of all three components about 9 months ago and I'm only through about 1.5ltr so far. Takes me ages to get through it. I am back on Aeroponics currently though, so I should start burning through it.