Weedjunkys Diary mentored by Nanook of the north

[GMO]

No worries dude, hope you enjoy the rest of you weekend




I was using these amounts when adding to the system, adding 10litres worth of bloom a+b and pk, testing the ec and seeing what that took it to, then adding 10litres worth each time until I reached the desired ec. I did it this way to try ensure I was getting the correct ratios of a+b and pk. Again I’m probably doing this wrong.




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Lemme jump in while Nanook is busy mate

What's the total volume of your system when running at full

Have you calibrated them pens yet. You don't need new ones, they will last year's with proper maintenance

Forget your feed chart. It may be giving you an idea for ratios but that's nan's job as mentor mate

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Yes mate calibrated both ph pens and bought a new ec one there.

The system was 50litre reservoir but now with the root mass it’s sitting between 40 and 45 litres mate


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Awesome

So we're either of you old pens out? And if so how much by mate. It Will give us a better idea how your plants want to be feeding

So we will work on the basis you working with 45l of water

Forget mixing nutes in a seperate bucket. turn off all the circulation pumps so plants aren't being fed and add nutes directly to the rez, Ph first then Add PK before B and then A (A+B in equal measure). mix well and then check the levels using your pens. If Ec is low add A+B. Once your happy it's actually at the right readings, turn it all back on

30ml A + 30ml B I think will bring you up about 0.5 ec from base. I'd start at 20ml each and 10ml PK

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[GMO]

Should have mentioned mate my background ec can range from 0.0-0.2


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If background can change that much you'll need to be checking that before every time you mix nutes

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[The Irishman]

Lemme jump in while Nanook is busy mate

What's the total volume of your system when running at full

Have you calibrated them pens yet. You don't need new ones, they will last year's with proper maintenance

Forget your feed chart. It may be giving you an idea for ratios but that's nan's job as mentor mate

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Yes mate calibrated both ph pens and bought a new ec one there.

The system was 50litre reservoir but now with the root mass it’s sitting between 40 and 45 litres mate


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Awesome

So we're either of you old pens out? And if so how much by mate. It Will give us a better idea how your plants want to be feeding

So we will work on the basis you working with 45l of water

Forget mixing nutes in a seperate bucket. turn off all the circulation pumps so plants aren't being fed and add nutes directly to the rez, Ph first then Add PK before B and then A (A+B in equal measure). mix well and then check the levels using your pens. If Ec is low add A+B. Once your happy it's actually at the right readings, turn it all back on

30ml A + 30ml B I think will bring you up about 0.5 ec from base. I'd start at 20ml each and 10ml PK

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The old one was reading 0.1 less than the new ph pen, but there wasn’t much off. And both ec pens read the same. Good ole essentials pen was still running good after all that time lol

This is always somewhere I thought I’d went wrong mate. the 4 pots and brain bucket are all connected with pipe work, and After I add the fresh water to the system I add the nutes to the brain pot, let it all mix for 15 minutes between brain and 4 pots, then go back and test again. if I turn off the pump will that not be me just mixing the nutes in the 10lites water in the brain bucket? Then when I turn pump back on it will dilute with the rest of the water if that makes sense

I could get another bucket and add 45 litres of water and the nutes and get the ec and ph right and then add it to the system if that would be better mate

That last bit of your message is spot on mate, that will bring my ec to around 0.5, so I like the sounds of the 20ml of each rather than the 30


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[The Irishman]

Should have mentioned mate my background ec can range from 0.0-0.2


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If background can change that much you'll need to be checking that before every time you mix nutes

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Yeah mate I check it every time before I add them, always check the ph as well before I add them. My water ph’s at 6.8-70


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[GMO]

I honestly haven't worked with a multi bucket system

Personally I would do the second bucket option. Mix up 45-50l of n7es exactly how you want them. Drain your system and start fresh

Then daily you will wanna top it off with you nute mix to bring it all into range daily

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[The Irishman]

I honestly haven't worked with a multi bucket system

Personally I would do the second bucket option. Mix up 45-50l of n7es exactly how you want them. Drain your system and start fresh

Then daily you will wanna top it off with you nute mix to bring it all into range daily

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I like the sounds of that idea mate. Now I think of it with the water and nutes trying to mix round the system and root mass it might not be fully mixed when I am testing it again 15 minutes later. So that definitely sounds like a better idea to get the right ec and ph.

My system has a 100l flexi tank connected to a float valve in the brain bucket, which tops up the system with fresh water when the plants use up the reservoir solution. This would make the ec drop. I was then adding 10ml of bloom a and 10ml of bloom b when I noticed the drop to bring it back within range. Would this maybe be part of the reason I would be getting the burn from adding too high a concentration straight into the system? Would I maybe be best mixing the 0.5ec solution in the 100litre flexi tank so that when the plants drink the reservoir solution it will be topped up straight away with the flexi tank 0.5 ec solution rather than fresh water. Hope that all makes sense mate cause trying to type it out is hard lol


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[GMO]

My system has a 100l flexi tank connected to a float valve in the brain bucke

yes

drain your system and mix from in the rez and fill from rez. if they only drink 50l in a week tho, only mix 50l and not the full 100l or youll be dumping the extra weekly as well

YOU SHOULD STILL BE RUNNING TAP WATER TILL THIS EVENING anyways

so yes it sounds like you have been feeding the first plant in the chain with high concentration of nutes as it hasnt fuly mixed evenly with your water before the system forces the solution over the roots

mixing in the rez will stop this, means everything feeds more evenly and your water should be easier to keep in range as your working with 145l rather than just 45l

[The Irishman]

My system has a 100l flexi tank connected to a float valve in the brain bucke

yes

drain your system and mix from in the rez and fill from rez. if they only drink 50l in a week tho, only mix 50l and not the full 100l or youll be dumping the extra weekly as well

YOU SHOULD STILL BE RUNNING TAP WATER TILL THIS EVENING anyways

so yes it sounds like you have been feeding the first plant in the chain with high concentration of nutes as it hasnt fuly mixed evenly with your water before the system forces the solution over the roots

mixing in the rez will stop this, means everything feeds more evenly and your water should be easier to keep in range as your working with 145l rather than just 45l

Mate this wee session of brainstorming honestly has hit the nail on the head. Cause see now I think about it, once I do the water and nutrient change and set the ec everything goes perfect for 3 days (ec will drop steadily and ph act normally) until I add the extra nutes. The ec would drop at least 0.2/0.3 then I would add 20ml sometimes 30ml a+b to bring the ec back to what it was before. But then the ec will then stall and stops moving and would stay on what it was at the start


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[GMO]

My system has a 100l flexi tank connected to a float valve in the brain bucke

yes

drain your system and mix from in the rez and fill from rez. if they only drink 50l in a week tho, only mix 50l and not the full 100l or youll be dumping the extra weekly as well

YOU SHOULD STILL BE RUNNING TAP WATER TILL THIS EVENING anyways

so yes it sounds like you have been feeding the first plant in the chain with high concentration of nutes as it hasnt fuly mixed evenly with your water before the system forces the solution over the roots

mixing in the rez will stop this, means everything feeds more evenly and your water should be easier to keep in range as your working with 145l rather than just 45l

Mate this wee session of brainstorming honestly has hit the nail on the head. Cause see now I think about it, once I do the water and nutrient change and set the ec everything goes perfect for 3 days (ec will drop steadily and ph act normally) until I add the extra nutes. The ec would drop at least 0.2/0.3 then I would add 20ml sometimes 30ml a+b to bring the ec back to what it was before. But then the ec will then stall and stops moving and would stay on what it was at the start


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Once the pennies drop and the beacons line up mate, you look back and wonder how you couldn't work stuff out

Just bouncing ideas and giving full info will help sooo much

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[The Irishman]

yes

drain your system and mix from in the rez and fill from rez. if they only drink 50l in a week tho, only mix 50l and not the full 100l or youll be dumping the extra weekly as well

YOU SHOULD STILL BE RUNNING TAP WATER TILL THIS EVENING anyways

so yes it sounds like you have been feeding the first plant in the chain with high concentration of nutes as it hasnt fuly mixed evenly with your water before the system forces the solution over the roots

mixing in the rez will stop this, means everything feeds more evenly and your water should be easier to keep in range as your working with 145l rather than just 45l

Mate this wee session of brainstorming honestly has hit the nail on the head. Cause see now I think about it, once I do the water and nutrient change and set the ec everything goes perfect for 3 days (ec will drop steadily and ph act normally) until I add the extra nutes. The ec would drop at least 0.2/0.3 then I would add 20ml sometimes 30ml a+b to bring the ec back to what it was before. But then the ec will then stall and stops moving and would stay on what it was at the start


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Once the pennies drop and the beacons line up mate, you look back and wonder how you couldn't work stuff out

Just bouncing ideas and giving full info will help sooo much

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And yes dude still on fresh water until tonight, that will be 72hrs on fresh water so hoping they will be completely flushed and ready for this 0.5 feed. Thanks again for your time today mate


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