Growers Choice Naranja Biscotti

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Interesting. So plain RO water is unsafe to drink due to a lack of minerals?

That’s right, basically water that pure doesn’t like to be that way and will grab any material it can.
On the one hand it can be used for detox as it will help remove lots of nasties but at the same time it will strip you of the vitamins and minerals your body needs.
The mineralisation filter puts back all the beneficial minerals and vitamins that the ro takes away.
I watered some plants in the greenhouse with ro water that had been de ionised and the plants were dead in a day or two.

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Water is the most powerful solvent known to man. Putting some minerals back helps stabilise the PH and makes the water less aggressive if that makes sense. I use pure RO for my plants but the water is remineralised when I add the food. I do have to use a specific food made for RO though so I have enough calcium available to the plants.

[sybarite]

That’s right, basically water that pure doesn’t like to be that way and will grab any material it can.
On the one hand it can be used for detox as it will help remove lots of nasties but at the same time it will strip you of the vitamins and minerals your body needs.
The mineralisation filter puts back all the beneficial minerals and vitamins that the ro takes away.
I watered some plants in the greenhouse with ro water that had been de ionised and the plants were dead in a day or two.

I guess it makes sense to add minerals back and no harm in doing so, but with all due respect, I'm not entirely convinced that RO water leaches minerals from plants or humans to any significant degree - there are conflicting scholarly articles about this, so it would be good to see more firm evidence supporting the claim. I was drinking RO water for several years and I would say I'm in peak health for my age, but I eat a varied, healthy diet. Maybe the WHO are concerned about third world countries with poorer diets, that may possibly rely more on having minerals in water, but in tap water those are often insignificant trace amounts. I was also watering my soil with RO for the last couple of years until the filter developed a leak and admittedly my plants haven't always been the best, but not the worst either and none of them ever died. I now use a simpler activated carbon chloramine/chlorine filter both for drinking, and for my plants, and the water does taste nicer than RO, it's far less wasteful than RO, but not seen any significant difference with my plants.

WHO article supporting the claim: https://www.accomplishmoretoday.com/pub ... 0Water.pdf

Water Quality Association refuting the claim: http://staging.wqa.org/Portals/0/Techni ... SWater.pdf

Myth busting articles:

https://primereviews.org/is-reverse-osm ... -ro-water/

https://quenchwater.com/blog/6-myths-about-water/

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Water is the most powerful solvent known to man. Putting some minerals back helps stabilise the PH and makes the water less aggressive if that makes sense. I use pure RO for my plants but the water is remineralised when I add the food. I do have to use a specific food made for RO though so I have enough calcium available to the plants.

Yes your right about the minerals effecting ph, ro water hardly needs any ph down does it, in fact I have to dilute the ph down when working with 2L bottles of water, just one drip of straight ph down makes it so acidic

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Yeah maybe your right @sybarite, I’m only going off what I’ve read and learnt over the years.
They say you shouldn’t drink distilled water for the same reasons but plenty of people still do.

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RO water strips your body of vital minerals and salts. Bit like when you drink too much and use that fizzy shite in your drink to replace the fluids lost by boffing up all night lol.....

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RO water strips your body of vital minerals and salts. Bit like when you drink too much and use that fizzy shite in your drink to replace the fluids lost by boffing up all night lol.....

Respectfully, is there any conclusive scientific evidence? There appear to be as many articles refuting the claim as there are supporting it. A lot of the supporting claims appear to be based on the WHO paper. My wife and I had been drinking RO water for about 10 years not knowing this, but are both healthy and don’t feel much different now to how we did 10 years ago, hence me questioning it. I’ve not noticed any difference with my plants either since eliminating the RO stage and only using a single stage coconut filter – they still look as shit as ever!

This is probably the most informative thing I’ve found so far with references to various articles, including the WHO and WQA ones:
https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/reve ... king-water

Regardless, better safe than sorry, so best to remineralise RO, but it is wasteful and unsustainable in this age of impending water scarcity. Would a coconut filter without RO on a low flow rate be unsuitable? I’m fortunate that our provider has the cleanest water in UK and appreciate some of you may not be so fortunate, so maybe there is a need for RO in some areas.

I use only this now: https://www.waterfilterman.co.uk/home/6 ... 05195.html

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RO water strips your body of vital minerals and salts. Bit like when you drink too much and use that fizzy shite in your drink to replace the fluids lost by boffing up all night lol.....

Respectfully, is there any conclusive scientific evidence? There appear to be as many articles refuting the claim as there are supporting it. A lot of the supporting claims appear to be based on the WHO paper. My wife and I had been drinking RO water for about 10 years not knowing this, but are both healthy and don’t feel much different now to how we did 10 years ago, hence me questioning it. I’ve not noticed any difference with my plants either since eliminating the RO stage and only using a single stage coconut filter – they still look as shit as ever!

This is probably the most informative thing I’ve found so far with references to various articles, including the WHO and WQA ones:
https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/reve ... king-water

Regardless, better safe than sorry, so best to remineralise RO, but it is wasteful and unsustainable in this age of impending water scarcity. Would a coconut filter without RO on a low flow rate be unsuitable? I’m fortunate that our provider has the cleanest water in UK and appreciate some of you may not be so fortunate, so maybe there is a need for RO in some areas.

I use only this now: https://www.waterfilterman.co.uk/home/6 ... 05195.html

I'd rather not spend the time and money filtering anyway.

Just an individual choice. It's something I've heard a few time off folks.

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Week 4 Veg

Silicon = 0.5ml/L
Calmag = 1ml/L
A+B = 1ml/L
Fulvic = 1ml/L
Rootstim = 1 ml/L

Background E.C = 0
E.C = 1.3
P.H = 5.9
Light = Invisible Sun V bar (150w) @45%

Got these potted up into 16L pots and switched them over from formulex to vitalink a+b, also gave them a little calmag to help with the stress of transplanting.
This is the first time they’ve tried Fulvic as well.

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Week 4 Veg

Silicon = 0.5ml/L
Calmag = 1ml/L
A+B = 1ml/L
Fulvic = 1ml/L
Rootstim = 1 ml/L

Background E.C = 0
E.C = 1.3
P.H = 5.9
Light = Invisible Sun V bar (150w) @45%

Got these potted up into 16L pots and switched them over from formulex to vitalink a+b, also gave them a little calmag to help with the stress of transplanting.
This is the first time they’ve tried Fulvic as well.

They looking well happy hun , soon to be monsters


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