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Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:18 pm
Beginning to fill out
1 ml canna a and b
1 ml rhizotonic
.5 ml calmag
1.5 Aptus regulator
Drain to waste using rhizo system
Sprayed plants with 2 teaspoons of Epsom salts for two days one after the other with lights turned down. Aiming for 24/3 for flip
Perfect mate. Ready to flip in a week maybe before if you want to. The calmag and epsom salts will have "loaded" em up good. Repeat 1-2 weeks into flower for 2 days again. That will likely be all the cal mag you need this grow. Keep them as level as you can for the next week. These are gonna be monsters.

Ill sort out a flower feed for you shortly.
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That old G'n'R tune keeps coming to mind when I see these plants now, lol, Welcome to the Jungle, ha!
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Right Maximum, time to get all kinds of stinky up in that groom. to cover what we have done and learned from previous mistakes in this one:

You always use base nutrients in coco, when you first joined you were not, you didn't need your plant saving, you done it all with a little help. always use base nutrients in e very feed and you would have never needed me.
We have adjusted PH to veg stage, this will normally be 5.8-6.0, you can drift it up to 6.2, some strains will prefer a higher ph in veg.
We have now "loaded" the plants with some cal mag. cal mag is a tricky thing to use. It will automatically make plants darker, masking the fact its fixing a issue. For this reason unless you are in RO water i recommend you use it to "load" up as i explained with the epsom salts a few times through a grow, or as needed, not as a permeant addition to your feed.

Now for flower:

Here comes the fun bit brother :barmy:. You have given these a good long veg, this is something man do not do. For this reason your plants are mature enough tom go into flower when you change lights, they wil, in turn go into true flower faster. Id imagie you will start to se true flower within 7-9 days of changing your lights to 12/12. Your plants will have huge root zones given the veg as well, this will encourage faster stronger growth in the vital early stages of flower. Next grow do not forget this. The amount of people i see rush veg is insane, it makes a longer flower and smaller harvest.

Lets flip these plants:

When your res of nutes runs out, change the lighting to 12/12. Really think about when you want these lights on, night or day. Temperatures will be getting warmer soon and you have at least 10 weeks of flower ahead of you. It will be easier to keep plants warm than cool them down. Have a think on this.

As you are changing your lights to 12/12 when you make your next feed we are officially in flower. Time to change your nutrients. Some people wait a week or 2, i do not. Im of the firm opinion that changing to flower nutes straight away means the second your plants need pk they will have ig in the feed. It cant hurt to have it there anyway in the doses im going to recommended.

days 1-4 (based on a 4 days mix if feed, of you still have a different size res please message me):

1ml per litre canna a and b
0.25ml per litre canna PK 13/14
PH set to 6.0, allow to rise to 6.2 which it will do on its own, rest back to 6.0 if it goes above 6.2

Days 5 - 12 (again assuming you have 4 days feed mixed at a time, message me if not):

1.2ml per litre canna coco a and b
0.4ml per litre canna pk 13/14
ph set to 6.0, allow to rise to 6.2 which it will do on its own, rest back to 6.0 if it goes above 6.2



Stop adding anything else including silicone.

Please update with pics in here every 2 days for the first 10 days of flower if not the first 3 weeks, its vital we keep these girls well fed and i can only change the feed is i can see the plants.

Your plants will start to stretch in flower, weeks 1-4, this is ok, keep them level as they stretch in the same way you have been in veg, some LST.

Time to get sticky :barmy: :barmy: :barmy:
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Keeno wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:07 pm
Right Maximum, time to get all kinds of stinky up in that groom. to cover what we have done and learned from previous mistakes in this one:

You always use base nutrients in coco, when you first joined you were not, you didnt need your plant saving, you done it all with a little help. always use base nutrients in e very feed and you would have never needed me.
We have adjusted PH to veg stage, this will normally be 5.8-6.0, you can drift it up to 6.2, some strains will prefer a higher ph in veg.
We have now "loaded" the plants with some cal mag. cal mag is a tricky thing to use. It will automatically make plants darker, masking the fact its fixing a issue. For this reason unless you are in RO water i recommend you use it to "load" up as i explained with the epsom salts a few times through a grow, or as needed, not as a permeant addition to your feed.

Now for flower:

Here comes the fun bit brother :barmy:. You have given these a good long veg, this is something man do not do. For this reason your plants are mature enough tom go into flower when you change lights, they wil, in turn go into true flower faster. Id imagie you will start to se true flower within 7-9 days of changing your lights to 12/12. Your plants will have huge root zones given the veg as well, this will encourage faster stronger growth in the vital early stages of flower. Next grow do not forget this. The amount of people i see rush veg is insane, it makes a longer flower and smaller harvest.

Lets flip these plants:

When your res of nutes runs out, change the lighting to 12/12. Really think about when you want these lights on, night or day. Temperatures will be getting warmer soon and you have at least 10 weeks of flower ahead of you. It will be easier to keep plants warm than cool them down. Have a think on this.

As you are changing your lights to 12/12 when you make your next feed we are officially in flower. Time to change your nutrients. Some people wait a wek or 2, i do not. Im of the firm opinion that changing to flower nutes straight away means the second your plants need pk they will have ig in the feed. It cant hurt to have it there anyway in the doses im going to recommened.

days 1-4 (based on a 4 days mix if feed, if you still have a different size res please message me):

1ml per litre canna a and b
0.25ml per litre canna PK 13/14
PH set to 6.0, allow to rise to 6.2 which it will do on its own, rest back to 6.0 if it goes above 6.2

Days 5 - 12 (again assuming you have 4 days feed mixed at a time, message me if not):

1.2ml per litre canna coco a and b
0.4ml per litre canna pk 13/14
ph set to 6.0, allow to rise to 6.2 which it will do on its own, rest back to 6.0 if it goes above 6.2



Stop adding anything else including silicone.

Please update with pics in here every 2 days for the first 10 days of flower if not the first 3 weeks, its vital we keep these girls well fed and i can only change the feed is i can see the plants.

Your plants will start to stretch in flower, weeks 1-4, this is ok, keep them level as they stretch in the same way you have been in veg, some LST.

Time to get sticky :barmy: :barmy: :barmy:
Nice n easy, comprehensive advice.

Nice read @Keeno :thanks:
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Thanks K appreciate ur guidance
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Maximum wrote:
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Look beautiful eh.

If you look at the picture before this which is when you done the 2 dats if calmag they were lighter. They are now loaded up for the transition to flower. But you can also see what I call the "curse of calmag".... If you are feeding clamag 24/7 it hides developing deficiencies or issues.

They look amazing mate. You are lucky you have a auto feed system because you will struggle getting in there to feed them in afew week without it 😊
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