Minty - AutoPot Grow - Assisted by 2-Scoops

[Minty]

So if you pot up this weekend

I did post a follow up to the last post but guess I never clicked submit (twice) - anyways, I decided for the following reasons not to move them up into the AutoPots just yet:-

• The current heat in my loft area is above 40℃ and humidity is really low at (just 34 after flooding the GRoom)
• They seemed to be doing alright under the existing light and are more accessible in the airing cupboard than the loft.
• I wanted the roots to get a little more pot bound to hopefully make transplanting easier.
• Just couldn't be arsed to be fair ;o)

18 Days old:-



I kinda want to keep them out of the loft as long as possible until I can get the heat under control. The light is still dimmed and I can move them down a shelf as it were and remove the one they are sitting on, or remove the shelf above and raise the light but open to suggestions really. Should I be reading up on topping/training etc? and would it be recommended to move them to the final pots before doing this as that may be a reason to move them in sooner rather than later.

Thanks mate.

P.S. Noticed people call you Jimmi/Jimbo would you prefer that is that something I need to earn ;O)

[2-Scoops]

Yes cool with letting them be a while tbh i thought you were potting up a bit too soon. One thing if roots are all clumped around pot bottoms at potting up, basically loosen them up with your hand gently like, im sure you get me on that one. They are gonna need topping soon but not just yet, prolly early next week just nip out top shoot and jobs a good en, but lets check pictures out firstly to see if they`re big enough, but i can`t see why they wouldn`t be looking how they are coming on now. Iff you have any b-vits or summink like superthrive i like to give plants a splash of that after a bit of stressing :) .

Humidity don`ty sweat on that too much but i here ya about temps yes.

Either or im not too fussy mate but i do like 2-scoops, real name isn`t Jimmi.

[Minty]

One thing if roots are all clumped around pot bottoms at potting up, basically loosen them up with your hand gently like, im sure you get me on that one. They are gonna need topping soon but not just yet, prolly early next week just nip out top shoot and jobs a good en, but lets check pictures out firstly to see if they`re big enough

2-Scoops it is then. I will post another update next week and you can let me know when to top them etc as this is something I have not done before so your help will be appreciated. Would you say top them before or after potting up to reduce the stress or just do both at the same time?

They are looking a little nutrient burnt I think:-

Which is because I messed up the feed by going to full week one schedule already (and my schedule is based on hydroponics at the min so need to sort out another one):-



To be honest they are still alive so I'm good with ever at the min - already killed one plant this season ;o)

Thanks as always for your help mate.

[2-Scoops]

Those plants need to be on around 0.7ec now but with calmag you could stretch it to 0.8ec but 0.7 is much better and safer tbh. Once they go in that system you can throw that feed chart out of window cus one thing you dont wanna be doing with autopots is overfeeding and its easily overdone and build up can soon occur, but i`ll tell you fert strengths needed for jobby then but theirs gonna be no need whjat so ever to go over 1.2ec when plants are fully grown. It maybe an idea to just give those a good feed of water next time and miss out ferts , just to plenty of run off to get rid of any excess build up in pots.

In all honesty although it`s hard to tell, but yes ive watched that video about 5 times and im unsure if it is overferting and more like underferting when plants were younger, overferting the dead necrotic bits on leaves range from golden yellow to dark brown colouring and underferting they are a more dead lets say grey/white looking. Just a pointer to watch out for Minty. On another note i always go by newer growth and if that looks good your good to go 99 times out of 100.

[2-Scoops]

Mate ive just looked at the fert chart and if your feeding from that at 594ppm then those plants are defo gonna be showing burnt symptoms, you really need to drop that right back to 350 ppm asap and that`s after giving a good feed of water only next time your watering plants and do it to plenty of run off. Pretty urgent or you`ll start to see these going down hill pretty quickly and yes it must have been burnt symptoms for sure, but 600ppm must be way over 1.0ec, nah....... sort it out quickly Minty.

As for charts those are a load of bollox, i mean if you have plants under a bigger light plants will be bigger and a opposite for smaller lighting so how do they compensate for that, feed charts are a load shit mate. Best going by how your plant looks and if it looks happy why fuck around too much.

ps

On another note would it not be just as easy to buy one of these cheapo dual EC & PPM pens if your in UK, just to stop muddling my blood clot up lol. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Digital-Wate ... SwhaZeWPd9 it also takes water temps, dont be fooled about buying cheap Chinese stuff either cus ive owned only one EC pen that i have had 15years or more from China under a tenner

[Josh]

"but 600ppm must be way over 1.0ec, nah....... sort it out quickly Minty."

On a 500 scale, 600 ppm would be 1.2 EC

On 700 scale, it would be 0.9 EC

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[Minty]

you really need to drop that right back to 350 ppm asap and that`s after giving a good feed of water only next time your watering plants and do it to plenty of run off

Thanks 2-Scoops,

I flushed them yesterday when I suspected the over feed and hace flushed them again today.

I do have one of those TDS/EC meters and that reads 0860 when put into EC mode.

[2-Scoops]

you really need to drop that right back to 350 ppm asap and that`s after giving a good feed of water only next time your watering plants and do it to plenty of run off

Thanks 2-Scoops,

I flushed them yesterday when I suspected the over feed and hace flushed them again today.

I do have one of those TDS/EC meters and that reads 0860 when put into EC mode.

Yes i think that`s much easier. cus its in uS/cm2 it`s x1000 to British ec so basically uS/cm ec0860 is actually 0.86ec to us Brits. Iff you look back at the chart Interjosh put up you`ll understand Us/cm and British EC alot easier than i can explain, so your running close to 0.9 ec tbh i`d drop that to 0700 or 0.7ec . Well i think that`s right anyhow. But it seems to coincide with Joshes last post working on a 700scale @ 0.9ec , if that makes sense ? Basically 1000 on your ec pen is 1.0ec . I`m also pretty sure your ppm pen is working from the last colunm on that same chart from all info we have now.

Once you`ve flushed pots through once theirs no need to do it again, in fact you can give ferts straigvht after flushing at correct EC if you like. But yes cool on doing that, maybe get them back on ferts at 0.7ec (0700US/cm) now Minty and jobs a good en. :)

[2-Scoops]

"but 600ppm must be way over 1.0ec, nah....... sort it out quickly Minty."

On a 500 scale, 600 ppm would be 1.2 EC

On 700 scale, it would be 0.9 EC

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Cheers for that and the chart you posted a bit back, it`s helped me lots.

[Minty]

But it seems to coincide with Joshes last post working on a 700scale @ 0.9ec , if that makes sense ? Basically 1000 on your ec pen is 1.0ec . I`m also pretty sure your ppm pen is working from the last colunm on that same chart from all info we have now.

Thanks - that helps.