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Looking at your grow this method seems to be paying rewards. I think this is like a lot of things you learn. It seems overwhelming at first but if you keep at it the pieces fall into place. Thanks for your work in sharing this info.

BTW...I believe that any and all input you give (or don't give) your plants is some form of crop steering. Not that it is all necessarily for the better. YMMV. Peace, Toad
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Looking at your grow this method seems to be paying rewards. I think this is like a lot of things you learn. It seems overwhelming at first but if you keep at it the pieces fall into place. Thanks for your work in sharing this info.

BTW...I believe that any and all input you give (or don't give) your plants is some form of crop steering. Not that it is all necessarily for the better. YMMV. Peace, Toad

Thanks 🙏 my friend. Still learning as going get a vwc sensor next year so can sail it in fully . The basic way to think about it is p1 you feed till run the p2 just keeping it top up p3 is no feeding

Gen you just double your p1 shot example in veg you’ll be like 2% so in gen be 4% of your pot size

1l = 1000ml
2% of 1000 = 20
4% = 40

Other example you wanted 12% dryback and feed 2% in p1 of this 1l pot, so youd do 12 divided by 2 = how many irrigation events so 12/2=6

P1 feed 6 time

As a 12% dryback would be 120ml. 12% of 1000=120ml
6 feed at 2% = 120ml

Easy peasy. Could talk about this or vpd till cows come home.


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Grumpy Toad wrote:
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I believe that any and all input you give (or don't give) your plants is some form of crop steering
Yes i agree with you to an extent, i mean topping a plant i would class as CS but i suppose theirs different kinds, basically you could say its a big wide bracket that i would think lots of diff training and steering techniques come under, possibly anyhow .
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A bit of a deeper dive into irrigation for crop steering

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Ive made this a sticky @ncrypta.core. Very good thread.
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@Keeno well I’m shock I managed to have 2 sticky threads

Here is square one genetics/Robin hood crop steering procedure

Veg:
GMV=Grow Medium Volume
RIE=Recurring Irrigation Events

These numbers are based off of a 1 gallon container of Coco. And remember, they are only a starting point to work from and they are not absolute.

For the first week of veg, I recommend watering by hand and letting the coco dry back twice, going from runoff to a light container. Only water again when the container has lost about 50% of the fully saturated weight and water until runoff once it has dried back. After 2 drybacks you can start watering more frequently and hook up your automatic watering system.

Gmv x Shot % = Shot Volume
(IE 4600ml x 5% = 230ml)

Dryback % ÷ Shot Volume = RIE

(IE 30 ÷ 5 = 6 Irrigation events)

100ml shots (4600 x 2.18%)
RIC = 4.58 events
(10% dryback 2.18% shot volume)
Light Cycle 18/6
*Lights on*
82-86F 74-76% humidity
*Lights off*
77-82F 72-74% humidity
-Irrigation Start 0-1hr after light on
-Irrigation Stop 0 to 2 hrs before lights off


Flower:

*Early Bloom (long dryback)
200ml shots (4600 x 4.35%)
6m 13s each shot
0.75 shot is 4m 39s
RIE = 5.75 events
(25% Dryback 4.35% Shot Volume)
Light Cycle 12/12
Lights on
79-81F 68-72% humidity
Lights off
76-80F 66-68% humidity
-Irrigation Start 2-4 hrs after lights on
-Irrigation Stop 3-4 hrs before lights off

*Mid Bloom (Vegetative style)
100ml shots (4600 x 2.18%)
3m 10s each shot
0.88 shot is 2m 47s
RIE =6.88 events
(15% dryback 2.18% Shot Volume)
Light Cycle 11/13
Lights on
76-78f 65-71% humidity
Lights off
73-75f 52-60% humidity
-Irrigation Start 0-1hr after lights on
-Irrigation Stop 0-2 hrs before lights off

*Late Bloom (generative style)
200ml shots (4600 x 4.35%)
RIC = 5.75 events (3 for last run)
(25% dryback 4.35% Shot Volume)
Light Cycle 11/13
Lights on
74-77f 50-55% humidity
Lights off
68-70f 50-55% humidity
-Irrigation Start 2-4 hrs after lights on
-Irrigation Stop 3-4 hrs before lights off

*Last week (generative style)
200ml shots (4600 x 4.35%)
RIE = 5.75 events/but likely less as the plants rate of consumption will have slowed greatly. It's usually around 3 events for me.
(25% dryback 4.35% Shot Volume)
Light Cycle 10/14
Lights on
70-72f 50-55% humidity
Lights off
63-65f 50-55% humidity
-Irrigation Start 2-4 hrs after lights on
-Irrigation Stop 3-4 hrs before lights off
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