Minty - AutoPot Grow - Assisted by 2-Scoops

[Minty]

@2-Scoops, I'm no expert mate but basically the difference is:-

* TLDR * Lumans is NOT a good measurement for horticulture

• PAR / Umol - measure light photons within the plants visible spectrum
• LUX / Lumen- measure light photons within the human visible spectrum

So if you consider the spectrum wave lengths:-

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And expand on the visible light part:-

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You can see that the plant can consume more light than a LUX meter will record.

Or another way of looking at it is that a LUX meter would not be measuring the additional BLUE and RED LED's fitted to the lights being produced by Invisible Sun and certain wavelengths of the 'white' diodes.

• 450nm royal blue
• 660nm Deep Red
• 730nm Far Red

Kinda related side note : Invisible Sun are now doing UVA Strips and if you check the wave length against the above charts they would also not be measured by a LUX meter:-

The ISH UVA 8 is a 8 piece uva based pcb which consists of 385nm , 395nm and 405nm wave lengths

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I am so getting me some of them bad boys!!

[Minty]

Just ending week four of Flower and Sticky as Fook!!

Kinda re-using my content from the Grow of The Month comp so excuse the 'post it note' ;o)






My tent cam has died a death so here is what I managed to save from it before editing etc - will post a tutorial about how to stabilise video once we get a tech forum, @@Keeno we need a nerds room ;o)

[Josh]

[mention]2-Scoops[/mention], I'm no expert mate but basically the difference is:-

* TLDR * Lumans is NOT a good measurement for horticulture

• PAR / Umol - measure light photons within the plants visible spectrum
• LUX / Lumen- measure light photons within the human visible spectrum

So if you consider the spectrum wave lengths:-

image.png

And expand on the visible light part:-

image.png

You can see that the plant can consume more light than a LUX meter will record.

Or another way of looking at it is that a LUX meter would not be measuring the additional BLUE and RED LED's fitted to the lights being produced by Invisible Sun and certain wavelengths of the 'white' diodes.

• 450nm royal blue
• 660nm Deep Red
• 730nm Far Red

Kinda related side note : Invisible Sun are now doing UVA Strips and if you check the wave length against the above charts they would also not be measured by a LUX meter:-

The ISH UVA 8 is a 8 piece uva based pcb which consists of 385nm , 395nm and 405nm wave lengths

image.png

I am so getting me some of them bad boys!!

Great info brotha, I'm saving this

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[Minty]

Great info brotha, I'm saving this

Don't quote me mate but that as far as I understand it is the basics ;o)

I like the look of those new @Invisible Sun UVA Boards for sure and looking at the above charts you can see the area they fill.

I kinda want to do a NON-White grow using just UVA, Royal Blue, Deep Red and Far Red ;o)

[Josh]

Great info brotha, I'm saving this

Don't quote me mate but that as far as I understand it is the basics ;o)

I like the look of those new [mention]Invisible Sun[/mention] UVA Boards for sure and looking at the above charts you can see the area they fill.

I kinda want to do a NON-White grow using just UVA, Royal Blue, Deep Red and Far Red ;o)

Prbly would be shit tbh you never know though!

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[Labs Dexter]

Plants look banging buddy and now i actually see the one that's behind lol but still beutiful flowers and shiney :D

[bigbadbillybob]

yeah, plants are looking great man, love the time lapse stuff.
if i wasnt so retarded all the time id like to be able to do it, but it would probably be like, work....

[2-Scoops]

@2-Scoops, I'm no expert mate but basically the difference is:-

* TLDR * Lumans is NOT a good measurement for horticulture

• PAR / Umol - measure light photons within the plants visible spectrum
• LUX / Lumen- measure light photons within the human visible spectrum

So if you consider the spectrum wave lengths:-


image.png


And expand on the visible light part:-


image.png


You can see that the plant can consume more light than a LUX meter will record.

Or another way of looking at it is that a LUX meter would not be measuring the additional BLUE and RED LED's fitted to the lights being produced by Invisible Sun and certain wavelengths of the 'white' diodes.

• 450nm royal blue
• 660nm Deep Red
• 730nm Far Red

Kinda related side note : Invisible Sun are now doing UVA Strips and if you check the wave length against the above charts they would also not be measured by a LUX meter:-

The ISH UVA 8 is a 8 piece uva based pcb which consists of 385nm , 395nm and 405nm wave lengths

image.png


I am so getting me some of them bad boys!!

Cool as fuck mate thanks for explanation.

On another note i was always taught uva does squat, uvb between 290 &320umol increases resin production and uvc kills spores . Maybe times have moved on hey, fuck knows, but if it`s added resin production your looking for get a t-5 x 24watt x 12% to 14% uvb used last 3 weeks of bloom = added resin production. Well tis how i use a cfl uvb bulb but not a t5 just bulbs. So a t5 strip light @ 12% would contain 12% uvb (290 to 320umol) and 88% uva (320 to 400nm) basically what im getting at is led aint always best and the t5 you get best of both worlds if your in 2 minds should i shouldn`t i. Here`s what your wanting for added pZazz not bloody uva. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Arcadia-Pro- ... Sw7bRfFZxh

Great info brotha, I'm saving this

Don't quote me mate but that as far as I understand it is the basics ;o)

I like the look of those new @Invisible Sun UVA Boards for sure and looking at the above charts you can see the area they fill.

I kinda want to do a NON-White grow using just UVA, Royal Blue, Deep Red and Far Red ;o)

It`s all i use most of the time red , blue and uvb or hps + mh + uvb = big mahoosive resin drenched buds. UVA does squat or so ive always been told and this discussion i remember has been on going since Adam or at least since ive been on forums, so a good few years, i reckon iff you google uvb and cannabis plants you`ll get shit loads back saying how good it is for added resin production but then google uva and cannabis plants and look at some of results you get on other forums too, i reckon very little, i mean why would science have changed or was science backwards 10 to 15 years back were we that backwards then, me thinks not, more a cash money maker like those air domes are dude, then again i might be wrong.

Here`s a few links to read mukka, don`t be fooled by sales by patter all time, everyone selling summink just want`s your spondoolies bro one way or another.

https://hightimes.com/grow/grow-hack-do ... s-potency/

&

https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-co ... lants-n314

[2-Scoops]

On another note @Minty plants look tip top. So i read your starting feeding pk 13/14 boost now at start of week 5, run that at 1/2ml per liter for 3 weeks so ignore instructions, i tend to start it at week 6 for 3 weeks on a 10 weeker strain, but week 5 is sound. You need to think about lowering fert levels too i think. But yes tell me what your giving them now mate and at what EC cus plants will start to slow down on uptake in coming weeks and you don`t wan`t build up of fert salts in that system it can be a mare to sort when plants are full sized. Cheers mukka. :)

[Minty]

On another note @Minty plants look tip top. So i read your starting feeding pk 13/14 boost now at start of week 5, run that at 1/2ml per liter for 3 weeks so ignore instructions, i tend to start it at week 6 for 3 weeks on a 10 weeker strain, but week 5 is sound. You need to think about lowering fert levels too i think. But yes tell me what your giving them now mate and at what EC cus plants will start to slow down on uptake in coming weeks and you don`t wan`t build up of fert salts in that system it can be a mare to sort when plants are full sized. Cheers mukka. :)

Hey mate,

PK wise I have decided to move away from PK 13/14 and use Rocks Resignator which is NPK: 0-7-8 and from my research I feel more comfortable using that. Downside being it's expensive and like Unicorn Shit to obtain at the moment so I did end up paying over the odd's for it! But still less than I would have spent on Street Weed just this week if I hadn't had my own 'medicine' to smoke mate and it should last me ages.

Stats tonight are looking like (temps high because of dehumifier being on) - but my understanding is better to have high temps and low RH? Although I can adjust that tomorrow to stay around 55% RH before kicking in etc.



The last nutrient recordings are:-