#3rd Diary - Grower's Choice & Quick Kush

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How are the plants look @fabi420 are they ok ? I hope i was just being a bit over dramatic with my last post.
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Re: #3rd Diary - Grower's Choice & Quick Kush

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2-Scoops wrote:
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Is it possible to have too little light for the hot soil?
I've never heard of that one before, i cant see why either. I doubt it but not sure tbh. I do know they are gonna end up same as before just by how its happening, so you've 2 choices > repot them into another soil which is best bet or flush pots through which i really think wont do squat diddly to stop it progressing and getting worse with typo dirt you use. Get a decision made one way or another ASAP if you dont want same as last grow Fabi. Summink is cooking your plants bad and its not gonna be light at 75 watts.
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How are the plants look @fabi420 are they ok ? I hope i was just being a bit over dramatic with my last post.
All good scoops, I'm glad you're so worried.
You're definitely right that if I don't do anything, it ends up just like last time.
I wrote to the manufacturer because the man is very familiar with all the processes in the plant. But he never answered, so a few days later I asked his right hand man. He suspects a calcium deficiency, which sounds really plausible. I have had an osmosis system since the last run and mix the osmosis water with a third of tap water. There really isn't enough calcium in it, since I've never had these problems with pure tap water. However, pure tap water has too much lime, so sooner or later I get a potassium deficiency because it can no longer be absorbed.
I now add calcium to my water and see if this is enough. It hasn't really gotten any worse since then and apart from the already burnt spots the plants look happy so far.
I'll do an update the days ✌️
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I'm not sure it is calcium deficiency @fabi420 but lets hope you have sorted it hey. More and more i look and how it progressed last time i think "hot soil" hopefully the other guy is right and im wrong hey. Fingers crossed mukka.

Is your tap very water hard then ? I cant see why you couldn`t use it tbh. The lime or calcium in hardwater is calcium carbonate and pretty much useless to plant in that form it needs summink like humics or/and amino acids to help chelate it down and become usable to plant, summink like fulvic acid would help to do jobby and work a treat.
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Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:54 am
I'm not sure it is calcium deficiency @fabi420 but lets hope you have sorted it hey. More and more i look and how it progressed last time i think "hot soil" hopefully the other guy is right and im wrong hey. Fingers crossed mukka.

Is your tap very water hard then ? I cant see why you couldn`t use it tbh. The lime or calcium in hardwater is calcium carbonate and pretty much useless to plant in that form it needs summink like humics or/and amino acids to help chelate it down and become usable to plant, summink like fulvic acid would help to do jobby and work a treat.
Yoyo scoops. ✌️
I also just hope he's right. But the conditions speak for it. ☝️
With my '1st diary' I already had the osmosis system, but at the beginning I always added CalMag for prevention until I thought that it shouldn't be necessary at all. The plants showed similar signs towards the end of flowering. Not at first because I added calcium there.
I would have thought that it wasn't hot soil, because the burned areas only appear on the bottom leaves. 🤔

There is so much lime in my tap water that sooner or later all potassium receptors will be blocked and the plant will have a potassium deficiency. The result is wilting plants at the latest by the end of flowering.

I'll do an update later, they look happy again so far apart from the already burnt spots. let's wait 🤷‍♂️
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3rd update - after 5 weeks

After about 7 weeks of vegetation, they've been on 12/12 for 2 weeks now. Bud production is definitely picking up too, not like last time.
At the moment, it is very likely that the burned areas are due to a calcium deficiency. Since adding calcium to my water it hasn't gotten any worse and the plants are looking happier and healthier. We'll see.

PS: I think the thrips are eradicated. I haven't seen one for a long time, but who knows if there isn't another one hiding somewhere. 🤷‍♂️

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The latecomer, the Wedding Punch, has definitely left its 2 competitors in the shade and robbed them of every chance haha. 😂

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But unfortunately she became a hermaphrodite and now had to die after all. I believed in her to the end. 😭

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Shame about the hermie but for sure these look a lot healthier than last go. You've gotta smash it right outa park with this one mukka.
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4th update - after 6 weeks

They've been flowering for 3 weeks since Saturday and I did a lollipop cut on Saturday. The pictures are also from Saturday. The plants look healthy and vital again so far, it really seems to have been a lack of calcium.

And unfortunately I have to say that when I was pruning, I noticed that almost all of them are hermaphrodites now. Only the back row of the new picture does not hermaphrodite. No idea what it is. What a shit.

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New positions:
Back: WP - QK - QK
Middle: SGP - WW - WW
Front: WW - OF - WP

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Damn :oh-shit: thats unlucky, I hope you still get something from this grow
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Ferking hell fire Fabi man if its not one thing its another, i swear only luck i seen is bad luck with these last few grows. Are you not gonna remove the fucked up plants with ball sacs on or haver they already opened it it too late ? Might be an idea spraying your room down and plants down with water to render any pollen that's hanging around useless and causing too much more damage as a one off.
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And unfortunately I have to say that when I was pruning, I noticed that almost all of them are hermaphrodites now. Only the back row of the new picture does not hermaphrodite. No idea what it is. What a shit.
Id say genetics usually, i might be wrong though.
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2-Scoops wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:28 pm
Ferking hell fire Fabi man if its not one thing its another, i swear only luck i seen is bad luck with these last few grows. Are you not gonna remove the fucked up plants with ball sacs on or haver they already opened it it too late ? Might be an idea spraying your room down and plants down with water to render any pollen that's hanging around useless and causing too much more damage as a one off.
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And unfortunately I have to say that when I was pruning, I noticed that almost all of them are hermaphrodites now. Only the back row of the new picture does not hermaphrodite. No idea what it is. What a shit.
Id say genetics usually, i might be wrong though.
You say it scoops, it's a shame.
I killed the first one straight away. And I didn't find an open sack. Besides, they were still in development.
I just ripped off all the sacks now and keep looking for new ones.

A buddy of mine made the same assumption, regarding the genetics 🤔
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