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Post by alfa2505 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:20 pm

Hi everyone,
This is my second grow in Coco coir 60/40 mix clay pebbles. Grow has been going fine.

I'm growing 7 orange punch fem and 3 Devils cream auto.

On week 3 day 5 of flower all my plants bar one are healthy and putting weight on and are sticky .
One plant is slightly stretched and the buds aren't as chunky or resinous at all.

I'm feeding 0.5 mL A+B =1ml in total
1 mL of rhiztonic
1 mL of pk
1 mL of silicon
.8 mL of Canna boost

I'm pH around 5.5 to 5.9 and EC at 1.1

Run off is around the same.

I'm running two viparspecta 600w reflectors

And 1 265w Invisible sun currently on 244 watts raised to 24" above canopy.

Like I said just one plant looks shiote in comparison.
It's probably just a shit plant and nothing else. I've noticed the flowers are turning orange already on that plant and all the others look juicy and white.
Any help or suggestions would help.
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Re: Plant looks rubbish

Post by Bulls » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:55 pm

Hello buddy. I can imagine you're using canna pk 13/14. That PK is way too strong for 1 ml per L for plants so young. It can make the plants mature very quick and also stop their growth. I'd strongly recommend you to get all the plants in the bath and flush with water straight from the tap x2 pot size in liters for example if 10L pots run 20L of water through them.
Then next day feed
0.75 Canna A per L
0.75 Canna B per L
0.5 PK 13/14 per L
1 ml Canna boost per L
PH 6.1

They look good but you need to know exactly what's going on there and feeding that is asking for trouble..hope you water them daily?
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Post by alfa2505 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:20 pm

Bulls wrote:Hello buddy. I can imagine you're using canna pk 13/14. That PK is way too strong for 1 ml per L for plants so young. It can make the plants mature very quick and also stop their growth. I'd strongly recommend you to get all the plants in the bath and flush with water straight from the tap x2 pot size in liters for example if 10L pots run 20L of water through them.
Then next day feed
0.75 Canna A per L
0.75 Canna B per L
0.5 PK 13/14 per L
1 ml Canna boost per L
PH 6.1

They look good but you need to know exactly what's going on there and feeding that is asking for trouble..hope you water them daily?
Thanks Bulls,
Yeah I'm watering everyday to run off. I'll flush the plants tomorrow and feed as you have recommended.
Thanks for the advice really appreciate it .

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Post by alfa2505 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:23 pm

Bulls wrote:Hello buddy. I can imagine you're using canna pk 13/14. That PK is way too strong for 1 ml per L for plants so young. It can make the plants mature very quick and also stop their growth. I'd strongly recommend you to get all the plants in the bath and flush with water straight from the tap x2 pot size in liters for example if 10L pots run 20L of water through them.
Then next day feed
0.75 Canna A per L
0.75 Canna B per L
0.5 PK 13/14 per L
1 ml Canna boost per L
PH 6.1

They look good but you need to know exactly what's going on there and feeding that is asking for trouble..hope you water them daily?
Also seen your inbox Bulls , unfortunately I can't reply yet as I'm a newbie.
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Post by Nanook of the north » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:50 am

Looks like your already sorted by the Coco master bulls. Welcome to the forum :)
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Post by integrajosh » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:40 pm

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Post by Marcus » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:08 pm

Everything looks cool to me. :oik!:

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Post by Keeno » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:16 pm

They are looking nice mate. If you document your grow here we will be able to see what you do and help as you go. Welcome to our quiet corner of the net.
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Post by Nanook of the north » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:21 pm

Can I ask, why do you have QB and vipars? I didnt get on with my vipar at all :(
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Post by alfa2505 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:18 pm

Nanook of the north wrote:Can I ask, why do you have QB and vipars? I didnt get on with my vipar at all :(
I started with the viparspecta 600w with a 1.2x1.2 grow tent it did a good job on my first grow. So when I got a 1.2x2.4 GR I bought another viperspectra but was then made aware of invisible sun but couldn't afford the £500 plus for the size I actually wanted. So bought the size I could afford and chucked it in-between the vipers . It's the first grow like this so I'll see what happens .

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Post by alfa2505 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:18 pm

Keeno wrote:They are looking nice mate. If you document your grow here we will be able to see what you do and help as you go. Welcome to our quiet corner of the net.
Thanks keeno appreciate the welcome.

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Post by alfa2505 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:22 pm

Bulls wrote:Hello buddy. I can imagine you're using canna pk 13/14. That PK is way too strong for 1 ml per L for plants so young. It can make the plants mature very quick and also stop their growth. I'd strongly recommend you to get all the plants in the bath and flush with water straight from the tap x2 pot size in liters for example if 10L pots run 20L of water through them.
Then next day feed
0.75 Canna A per L
0.75 Canna B per L
0.5 PK 13/14 per L
1 ml Canna boost per L
PH 6.1

They look good but you need to know exactly what's going on there and feeding that is asking for trouble..hope you water them daily?
Hiya Bulls I've followed your advice seems to be helping. Thanks.

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Post by Nanook of the north » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:24 pm

Cool :) I couldn't get a grip with them at all. Invis I did very well with and a mix I also did well with so fingers crossed for you :)
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Post by Bulls » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:04 am

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Hiya Bulls I've followed your advice seems to be helping. Thanks.
That's great to hear that it works mate. Keep us updated please, if you want update regularly with what you feed, and photos so we can keep an eye too and lead you to a successful end.
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Post by alfa2505 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:05 pm

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Hiya Bulls I've followed your advice seems to be helping. Thanks.
That's great to hear that it works mate. Keep us updated please, if you want update regularly with what you feed, and photos so we can keep an eye too and lead you to a successful end.
Well I've kept the feed you suggested , when would you reckon I should increase the EC and add more pk and boost? Or would you keep the feed as it is for a while longer?


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Post by jimmi2scoops » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:46 pm

Nowt`s written in stone Alfa2505 they are big plants and if they were mine i would be feeding 2ml to 2.5 ml of both AnB for where they at now. I run with EC of 1.2 to 1.4`ish but just using AnB and pk boost, i wouldsn`t really be adding more than 1/2ml per liter of pk13/14 if your using all way through flowering, it pretty vicious stuff makes leaves crispy. Canna boost it`s your shout it shouldn`t really effect ec, possibly slightly nowt worth a worry though. I run pk boost for 3 weeks mid to late bloom. :)
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Post by Bulls » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:19 pm

jimmi2scoops wrote:
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i would be feeding 2ml to 2.5 ml of both AnB
very interesting Jimmi. I've never went higher than 1.25 ml per L of each Canna A And B as in my opinion plants never needed it looking at them. What's your background ec as mine is 0.5-0.8 and it works out perfectly at that amount of nutes to reach 1.3-1.4 Ec. It's awesome how different people grow mate.

and Alfa, I'd keep it for now. What EC do you get with that amount of nutrients?

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Post by alfa2505 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:19 pm

jimmi2scoops wrote:Nowt`s written in stone Alfa2505 they are big plants and if they were mine i would be feeding 2ml to 2.5 ml of both AnB for where they at now. I run with EC of 1.2 to 1.4`ish but just using AnB and pk boost, i wouldsn`t really be adding more than 1/2ml per liter of pk13/14 if your using all way through flowering, it pretty vicious stuff makes leaves crispy. Canna boost it`s your shout it shouldn`t really effect ec, possibly slightly nowt worth a worry though. I run pk boost for 3 weeks mid to late bloom. :)
Thanks jimmi2scoops. I'll start that at weekend , will be week 5 then. Only 3-4 weeks left untill flush and chop.

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Post by alfa2505 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:21 pm

Bulls wrote:
jimmi2scoops wrote:
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i would be feeding 2ml to 2.5 ml of both AnB
very interesting Jimmi. I've never went higher than 1.25 ml per L of each Canna A And B as in my opinion plants never needed it looking at them. What's your background ec as mine is 0.5-0.8 and it works out perfectly at that amount of nutes to reach 1.3-1.4 Ec. It's awesome how different people grow mate.

and Alfa, I'd keep it for now. What EC do you get with that amount of nutrients?
Hiya Bulls, my background EC is 0.2 as I'm in a soft water area. With the nutrients added I got 0.8-1.0

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Post by jimmi2scoops » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:13 pm

Bulls wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:19 pm
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:46 pm
i would be feeding 2ml to 2.5 ml of both AnB
very interesting Jimmi. I've never went higher than 1.25 ml per L of each Canna A And B as in my opinion plants never needed it looking at them. What's your background ec as mine is 0.5-0.8 and it works out perfectly at that amount of nutes to reach 1.3-1.4 Ec. It's awesome how different people grow mate.

and Alfa, I'd keep it for now. What EC do you get with that amount of nutrients?
My background EC is 0.2 Bulls, 1.5ml of just Canna AnB in that allin is around 1.0ec slightly over if i`m remembering it rightly, only did that mix last week , heads a shed i swear man. But yes if anything i run around 1.4EC with background included first 3 or 4 weeks of bloom before dropping back to owt between 1.0 and 1.2 whatever floats my boat at time kinda thing. I have 2 small gg#4 vegging on 1.1 ec which is just A&B atmo and i don`t really get any overfert problems doing that.

I never really flush plants through mid bloom either tis summink i see a few do on here, tbh i don`t test run off unless plants look shit, summink i suppose wouldn`t hurt doing once in a while. I did used to flush my pots weekly once upon a time but i can`t see point anymore cus i run lower EC between 1.0 and 1.4`ish mostly, but when i ran 2.8ec growing in 20liter pots it was summink you had to do.
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jimmi2scoops wrote:Nowt`s written in stone Alfa2505 they are big plants and if they were mine i would be feeding 2ml to 2.5 ml of both AnB for where they at now. I run with EC of 1.2 to 1.4`ish but just using AnB and pk boost, i wouldsn`t really be adding more than 1/2ml per liter of pk13/14 if your using all way through flowering, it pretty vicious stuff makes leaves crispy. Canna boost it`s your shout it shouldn`t really effect ec, possibly slightly nowt worth a worry though. I run pk boost for 3 weeks mid to late bloom. :)
Thanks jimmi2scoops. I'll start that at weekend , will be week 5 then. Only 3-4 weeks left untill flush and chop.

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If your that far into bloom tbh i wouldn`t really be faffing about upping EC your plants look great as is and they will slow down taking in ferts towards back end of your grow so salts can build quicker in your medium. I run with a higher EC early in bloom for 3 or 4 weeks after flipping. You could quite easily up the Canna boost maybe double dose your using now so 2ml per liter or just go max dose it says on bottle, i don`t think that really effects EC and if it does its gonna be very slight, it`s a different type of boost that i don`t think contains any chemical salts but tis more hormones, vitamins, amino`s and maybe enzymes in the mix, i might have missed summink out feck knows tbh but yes get that upped if your gonna up anything now is my thoughts. :)
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